Need help on a grow area

[LiGhTuP]

I'm planning to start growing a bit of my own bud. Partly cuz I want a bit of a challenge and I'll be growing my own stash when I move into my own crib, so it'd be good to get some experience in it.

I'll be starting off outdoors cuz I can't really grow anywhere indoors at the moment. The place I've cleared is down by my lake in a dense bit of bush.

The problem is that no direct sunlight hits the grow area, although it is REALLY bright there anyway. Other small plants are growing nearby, but I dunno if pot could survive those conditions. Any ideas fellas?

[magic_mush88]

it will survive if it needs more light just get a grow light to help it out. Now are you growing in a pot out side or in the ground? Because the soil could affact the plant in many diff ways. But over all it should be fine if you ask me.

[LiGhTuP]

Shovelling out soil atm and putting sotting mix in its place. Then I'll plant the seeds in that when they germinate.

[magic_mush88]

sounds good!

[Weedguru Higher]

Weed needs direct sunlight most definately. Ideal is for it to get direct sun from like 7 am-4 pm or something like that. Depends how the sun rises and when it sets. Other plants can grow with no sun, it just depends on the type. Not weed though. it might grow a bit but not very well that is most certain. You want to get like in an open field but that has some other trees and bushes and long grass and stuff growing. Go stick it in beside some other plants or something. Clearings in the middle of woods arent very good, because there is not enought sun either. The sun will only hit directly when its right over and that only for a couple hours.

It's the type of ligght the sun emits that makes it grow, not just lightness. Real grow lights are made to imitate the real suns rays. That is why the are better

[SCARAB]

wouldn't animals eat the plant or insects infest the plant in open fields?

[Badass]

Marijuana needs a minimum of 4 hours direct sunlight a day. If youre sure its going to get this then go for it. Watch out for pests though. There are all sorts of little critters out there that will have a go at your plant.

[Stoned_Assassin]

In my opinion, its always better to grow weed indoors, because you can shine grow lights on it all the time, there's no wind or too much rain, and you wont get little stoner bugs eating your precious buds. It gets much bigger indoors, and when it's grown, stop watering it for a xouple of days and it get way more potent. However, a Dutch friend of mine swears that 'organic pot' as he calls it is much healthier.

[Badass]

Stoned_Assassin: Indoors is not necessarily the best place for yield. Outside we have the sun, the greatest source of lumens in our solar system i think ive read somewhere that its 5000 lumens/ft. Theres nothing better for a plants yield than light! Indoors you still need wind too, it helps to strengthen the plants and can keep those little bugs from getting too good a hold, and can help a little with temperature control. Plants will be much bigger outdoors as there isnt going to be a height restriction like a ceiling. I agree that you should not give it ferts for the last 2 weeks of its life, and let it use what is stored in the leaves. Potency can also be related to the way that your buds are cured too. If done properly it is said that it can increase potency by up to 25%. There is a lot of debate on wether organic is healthier than hydro and i think it comes down to this. If you flush the plant like you should then there will only be a minimal ammount of nutrient in there and it will be no worse then if it was in organics. Although it is said that organics do produce more flavour.

[Tlicious]

What can you use to keep the bugs away from your plant outside I need to know

[LiGhTuP]

Tomato dust or if its animals put a fence around the plants.

[Badass]

Heres a little more info i found out about the suns light output. Courtesy of thewalrus @ www.growkind.com

Here's the lowdown guys. . .

The sun puts out on average about 1365 W/m². This depends on surface fluxuations on the sun i.e. solar flares. In the VISIBLE wavelength, the output, measured in foot-candles of a noonday sun, is about 10,000 ft-cdl. A foot candle is the amount of light that a candle gives off 1 foot away, so in other words, the sun gives off as much light in the visible wavelength as 10,000 candles placed 1 foot away.

A Lumen is a measurement of intensity per unit length squared (ft-cdl/ft²), where as a foot-candle is just a measurement intensity. To put it simply, a lumen is the amount of VISIBLE light emitted from one candle illuminating a 1 square foot area at a distance of 1 foot. In other words, the suns output in lumens is about 10,000 lumens.

I cap'd VISIBLE so you understand that the visible light is only part of the electromagnetic spectrum. The sun outputs electromagnetic radiation over a much larger spectral area than just the visible wavelength. This is the reason you get sun burnt (ultraviolet light.) Radiation from the sun is emitted from around 250 nanometers to upwards of 3000 nanometers.

For growing Mj, from what I've read, plants use only spectral bands from the visible portion of the electromagnetic spectrum (390nm-760nm,) but I couldn't find any research on plants in other wavelengths i.e. IR & UV. Does anyone know if there have been any studies?

The output from an HPS bulb is measured in lumens, so although a 4000W HPS can output upwards of 50,000 lumens, it is usually rated for an area. For example, my 400W PL HPS outputs 53,000 lumens over an area of 8 sq/ft. This is about 6500 lumens per ft² or about 65% of the suns light (assuming 100% reflection). An HPS light also is only putting out portions of the visible light spectrum (the higher length reds and oranges), albeit this is the wavelength preferred for flowering.

If you really want to simulate the sun, there are a number of solar simulators, although growing Mj would be extremely uneconomical. Do a google search on “solar sim”.


I’m pretty sure all the information is correct.