What animals have you been stoned with?

[th3rdeye]

(the very fact that they can't get high on weed because they were not created with the necessary appendages tells me that they were not meant to) it is unethical to make that choice for them.

WHOA WHOA Hold the hell up. "were not meant to," by saying that you're implying that we have some form of purpose and that weed was made because we are meant to smoke it. All forms of animals (that includes humans) aren't meant to do anything, be anything, even smoke anything. There is no meaning anywhere. You're implying some greater being created humans and meant for us to smoke, and at the same time that same being created cats and dogs, and whatever, but did not create them to smoke.

And I will tell you right now, my dog has NEVER EVER struggled to get away. He trys to LICK the smoke out of my mouth. Soon he'll be sucking on his own tube from the Hookah.

I am VERY VERY insulted for you to think that I am fucking with my dog at his own expense for my entertainment, when I hold Dogs ona higher level of respect than I do humans

[Punk Dana]

Caro would you call it unjust that I shoved a tube from the hookah into my friends mouth while he was sleeping 2 nights ago? Yea, I guess it was lmao but my dog LOVES it.

Are you saying that you shoved a tube from your hookah into your dogs mouth too, or is this just worded wrong? if you did thats really fucked up and you don't deserve the company of a pet. If your pet comes into the room and enjoys being around the smoke then thats cool, but don't force anything on your pets. Also take into consideration that each animal's body is different and they react differently to substances than we do.

[Punk Dana]

(the very fact that they can't get high on weed because they were not created with the necessary appendages tells me that they were not meant to) it is unethical to make that choice for them.

WHOA WHOA Hold the hell up. "were not meant to," by saying that you're implying that we have some form of purpose and that weed was made because we are meant to smoke it. All forms of animals (that includes humans) aren't meant to do anything, be anything, even smoke anything. There is no meaning anywhere. You're implying some greater being created humans and meant for us to smoke, and at the same time that same being created cats and dogs, and whatever, but did not create them to smoke.

And I will tell you right now, my dog has NEVER EVER struggled to get away. He trys to LICK the smoke out of my mouth. Soon he'll be sucking on his own tube from the Hookah.

I am VERY VERY insulted for you to think that I am fucking with my dog at his own expense for my entertainment, when I hold Dogs ona higher level of respect than I do humans

She means that they don't have thumbs

[Skwerl_Butt]

I don't think animals should be getting high. I understand that all forms of animals aren't meant to do anything but all forms of animals have adapted special characteristics so that they can be able to do what they need to do in order to survive.I mean I know we don't need to smoke to survive but us humans have an opposable thumb, and we HAVE THE ABILITY to do many things. Other animals don't have a thumb so they don't neccesarily do things they can't do on their own.We have the ability to smoke,therefore, we do it,but we don't really need to.I think that this is what Caro meant. Am I wrong?

[th3rdeye]

Caro would you call it unjust that I shoved a tube from the hookah into my friends mouth while he was sleeping 2 nights ago? Yea, I guess it was lmao but my dog LOVES it.

Are you saying that you shoved a tube from your hookah into your dogs mouth too, or is this just worded wrong? if you did thats really fucked up and you don't deserve the company of a pet. If your pet comes into the room and enjoys being around the smoke then thats cool, but don't force anything on your pets. Also take into consideration that each animal's body is different and they react differently to substances than we do.

Like I said, I have a higher respect for dogs than I do humans, so no I never shoved a tube down my dogs throat. My dog takes the smoke at his own disposal and I don't need anyone judging me nor how I take care of my dog

[Caro]

We can keep this civil or I can lock it, Anhedonia. You expect me to believe that your dog knows how to suck smoke from a hookah and that he enjoys it??!! That is ridiculous. You are projecting your own feelings for loving to smoke onto your dog. The poor guy is probably just trying to kiss you when you say he is trying to lick the smoke out of your mouth. It's you he loves, not the smoke, and you should be ashamed of yourself for putting smoke into his lungs.

Even if, and this is a huge if, your dog doesnt reject having smoke forced into him as you say, do you really think it's responsible to promote this kind of behavior? If you have more respect for dogs than you do humans (another preposterous claim, we can argue about that some other time ) then you wouldn't want to see other people trying to make their animals suck off of hookah hoses.

I know that it was irresponsible and off topic of me to bring up creationism in this debate, but my point remains valid. Animals can't smoke on their own; therefore, they weren't designed (even by evolution, if you prefer) to smoke. They don't have opposable thumbs and they can't manipulate fire. It's purely a human choice.

[herbal stu]

No pls dont lock it. I am enjoying reading peoples views okay so I havnt made any more valuable contributions to the subject and I havnt here again but I want to become more informed from more views

[StickyHeds]

Been Stoned with my best friends dog, danny, he was going nuts, it was definately some funny stuff.

[th3rdeye]

Ok I want to apologize. I always debate in a very mature civil way, but than again I never debated my dog before. I was pheenin' when I posted that last night and Caro's assumptions just really made me hit the fan. So Yea I want to apologize for that.

You see we never used to smoke in my basement. We always toked behind my neighbors house, but than I got a my 65" HDTV, and we decided to toke while watching that. So we first noticed my dog when we'd go upstairs and Aidan (my dog) would be sniffing between the door and floor like no tomorrow. No he was never a fan of the basement, but since my basement offically reeks of marijuana, he comes down all the time now. We'd go upstairs to get munchies and he'd be at the door, and we'd close the door so he wouldnt go downstairs and he would continue to sniff. So one day he came down and we forgot to take him upstairs before we started to toking. I was cuddling with him as I hit the hookah, and I did my normal breathe out, and he stood up and started licking. Now he could have easily kissed me, but he didn't. Actually I thought he WAS trying to kiss me, but he didn't. He was too intrested in the smoke.

I'm sure he has no idea how to suck from a hookah, I don't even know if he realizes thats where the smoke is coming from.

Obviously you hold animals higher than humans, if you are afraid of putting smoking near the lungs of animals, but have no problem of us and you yourself destroying our lungs.

Now the first thing that really bothered me, is the fact you said animals aren't meant to smoke. Now this bothers me, simply because I hold it to be a logical fact that nothing has any meaning. We're here because we're a cosmic mistake. Nothing is meant to do anything, and that includes smoke. Now I realize you to be a logical being, and when you said that it just really got to me. Secondly this is really bothered me:

If you have more respect for dogs than you do humans (another preposterous claim, we can argue about that some other time

Now I've put up with several assumptions from you but this goes too far. I understand and respect you because you actually have opinions but for you to go and assume that I must have this certain level of respect for these contemptious humans, who do nothing but annoy the shit out of me with their infinite supply of ignorance. I can make plenty of things clear. The only things I truly respect within my reality is my dog, who is an endless supply of accompaniment, my best friend, who I have gone through with more in my life than one can imagine, my parents because they are the perfect parents in my opinion (and if I were stupid enough to have children, I'd want to be like them), and my car. Yes, my car. I absolutely love my car. But than again my defintion of love is certainly different from everyone elses. Sure not all dogs appear as cuddly and lovable. If you didn't read a post from my about 2 days ago, I said the only things a man needs in life is his car and his dog. I don't want some woman in my life just to fuck up all possibility of compliance I may try to achieve with reality.

I find preposterous to assume anything is designed for any random or particular reason.

If you have more respect for dogs than you do humans then you wouldn't want to see other people trying to make their animals suck off of hookah hoses.

I've never tried to get him to suck off a tube, I was just saying how I like smoking with him around and how he enjoys the smoke. It was you who took the original message of this topic and blew it to your own angle of light, in order to argue your over-zealous opinion on animal rights.

I'm not talking about the canine species, atleast I wasn't TRYING to. I'm not trying to discuss the human race, atleast I wasn't TRYING to. I was talking about my particular care and love for my particular dog and MY feelings towards him.

If you want to discuss creationism and the existance of God (or the lack there of) than create a new topic.

[Caro]

Wow - that was a lot to respond to. I hope you don't think I dislike you - you seem to be intelligent - but you have to realise that the way you worded your posts made it sound like you were being naiive and inhumane towards Aidan.

I've never tried to get him to suck off a tube, I was just saying how I like smoking with him around and how he enjoys the smoke.

See, that's different.

If I had more time I would comment further but thank you for clarifying and I hope we can agree

[th3rdeye]

I wub you <3

Thanks for understanding

[cutthecashflow]

I don't believe in killing babies or retarded people (that's Anhedonia). I don't believe in killing anything. I said that to make a point - it's hypocritical to deny rights to beings based on the criteria of "ability to reason".

Forcing smoke into your pet's lungs IS harmful. They don't have a choice. Don't lie to yourselves, those of you who have done it. Don't tell me the animal doesnt struggle or try to get away as you force smoke into his orifices.

I guess I won't lock this topic until it gets out of hand, but make no mistake about it - animals don't need to get high. Getting them stoned by force is not "sharing a good time" with them - it's just entertaining yourself at their expense.

Hey thanks for clearing that up I was just a little confused about everyting.

[PurpleHazey_420]

ive heard that weed smoke is piosinios to cats and birds and rabbits and little mamels and shit so i dont get my cats high they run away but my dog is a fucking stoner il say wanna get high and he will cockk his head sideways uno and follow me and sometimes ill do it just to see him do that and if i dont get it out he will start barking at me and shit the little phen but yeah you shouldnt force them because their bodies arnt like our and you might not no it but they could be in pain or be sick but if they want it then why not spread the love after all they are sopposed to be your best friend!!!

[Skwerl_Butt]

Me and Sparky got this little fly high ..it was just flying by as if the smoke atrracted it..so being that we were stoned...he took the joint and put it on the fly. Then the fly burnt and died stuck on the joint...I'm sorry fly hehe..

[CHRONIC CHRONIC USER]

my dog is a fucking stoner il say wanna get high and he will cockk his head sideways uno and follow me and sometimes ill do it just to see him do that and if i dont get it out he will start barking at me and

Your such a tease

My dog likes it with a passion and comes too me when i smoke but my dogs a pussy and cries when its not with its mommy so it just made her cry the first time she got high but after that she luved it