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O for sure. If a person wants to kill themselves and has their heart set on it..I doubt there is much the people around the person could really do. Not saying she was suicidal, but then again..yea I am. Crack kills.JTP wrote:I can't help but feel a little sad at the realization of just how many people might think this. You can't quit just because someone sends you to rehab: you have to truly want to. There's nothing at all anyone can do about it except the user. You can't make someone quit, no matter what.andriaSRH wrote:to just watch someone you supposedly" love" kill themselves with chemicals is totally fucked up.
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Let me try to explain addiction (not specifically crack) a little better. Let's say you've been injured and you get a painkiller script. You use it as directed and a little while later when your script runs out, you experience withdrawal symptoms. Cravings, shaking, cold sweats, extreme depression, diarrhea, random aches and pains, wanting to just die and all the while you've got the nagging thought that one easy-to-get pill could make this hell you've created all go away. You trick yourself into thinking you're better off with it, plunging yourself deeper into the addiction. This is what happened to me.
Other possible point of view:
You get a script and are lucky enough to not get addicted. You like how it feels so decide it can't hurt to try it occasionally...
It has nothing to do with being suicidal. All the time, I was accused of being suicidal, claiming I was killing myself and didn't give a damn about anyone else, or I'd "just quit." This really hurt, when I needed support (not money, just encouragement) more than a put-down. I doubt you could understand addiction to this degree unless you've experienced it. If you think cigarettes are a bad addiction, you've not seen anything. Ever have the thought "one more can't hurt?" It's a long and vicious cycle. Overdoses are the killers, not the drugs themselves.
Well, now I'm depressed.
Other possible point of view:
You get a script and are lucky enough to not get addicted. You like how it feels so decide it can't hurt to try it occasionally...
It has nothing to do with being suicidal. All the time, I was accused of being suicidal, claiming I was killing myself and didn't give a damn about anyone else, or I'd "just quit." This really hurt, when I needed support (not money, just encouragement) more than a put-down. I doubt you could understand addiction to this degree unless you've experienced it. If you think cigarettes are a bad addiction, you've not seen anything. Ever have the thought "one more can't hurt?" It's a long and vicious cycle. Overdoses are the killers, not the drugs themselves.
Well, now I'm depressed.
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I would say that cigarettes are probably the MOST addictive, one of the problems being they are easily available and they don't "fuck you up" they just kill you slowly so that "one more can't hurt" feeling is never challenged. Alchy and hard drugs are much worse addictions in the way they can tear someone's life up and fuck up all their relationships because the person would rather be fucked up than sober. I've been able to kick cigarettes rather easily, there was a point in my life where I smoked incessantly and did it to run away from my problems but I never truly enjoyed tobacco so once I snapped out of it I could go cold turkey.
Anyway, JTP, if opiates are that big of a problem in your past, why don't you just avoid them? Even if prescribed. To me, they only slightly numbed the pain, mainly they clouded it up with a high. Muscle relaxants have always been my best medication after an injury. After my knee surgery they gave me like one oxy and a bottle or two of vicodin. I ate that shit up for the feeling but it was the Flexeril that actually did me the best.
Anyway, JTP, if opiates are that big of a problem in your past, why don't you just avoid them? Even if prescribed. To me, they only slightly numbed the pain, mainly they clouded it up with a high. Muscle relaxants have always been my best medication after an injury. After my knee surgery they gave me like one oxy and a bottle or two of vicodin. I ate that shit up for the feeling but it was the Flexeril that actually did me the best.
I personally recommend checking oneself for OCD at least once every 5 minutes.
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I was comparing cigarette addiction to opiate addiction, saying cigarettes are much less addictive and a whole different game. This was an explanation to someone who didn't understand hard addictions.
I didn't avoid the pills this time around because I knew I'd only be able to get a bottle or two and my main drug connect just left town. I didn't realize they would make me able to get withdrawals so easily if I took them.
I actually just popped a Flexeril, but that doesn't really do much for me except help me sleep, numb pain from cramps a little bit and prevent them from happening. I combined opiates with cannabis to get through the surgery pain; the pills alone didn't do much.
Now I'm just popping different downers to get through withdrawal. Seems to be working well so far.
I didn't avoid the pills this time around because I knew I'd only be able to get a bottle or two and my main drug connect just left town. I didn't realize they would make me able to get withdrawals so easily if I took them.
I actually just popped a Flexeril, but that doesn't really do much for me except help me sleep, numb pain from cramps a little bit and prevent them from happening. I combined opiates with cannabis to get through the surgery pain; the pills alone didn't do much.
Now I'm just popping different downers to get through withdrawal. Seems to be working well so far.
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this is great
a guy i buy from had a "paranoid" feeling ( i hate those) , and he decided to temporarily get rid of all his smoking goods. got a nice little hand scale and a joint roller. he also gave about 7gs of some green
the hand scale amazes me, because i was scepticle that they acually work. i tested it out using my digital scale, and it is acually accurate. i dont care for joint rollers much though, i prefer to craft the joint myself
but all in all , shit is great

but all in all , shit is great

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Damn withdrawals have me hopping back and forth between the bathroom and bedroom. Before long, all toilets will revolt against me for this cruelty.
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alright sdo im pretyt wasted
hope my well weegeeee had just as epic a fridat night
hope my well weegeeee had just as epic a fridat night

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^ I enjoyed myself. Started a pretty epic song... But still, not as epic as a 'well weegeeee fridat'...

Like all dreamers, I mistook disenchantment for truth...
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MY fridat was mildly epic, started out as a night of chilling at a friends' and ended up somewhere in Antwerp this morning.
Computer games don't affect kids. I mean, if Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we would all be running around darkened rooms, munching magic pills, and listening to repetitive electronic music.
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^hehe, because sometimes having a drunken posting spree on WG is all you need!
Good weekend, my friend finally got his KTM Duke bike, it's a 125CC but it sure looks sweet, contemplating one myself but I fear I am no bikeman :p
Good weekend, my friend finally got his KTM Duke bike, it's a 125CC but it sure looks sweet, contemplating one myself but I fear I am no bikeman :p
Computer games don't affect kids. I mean, if Pac-Man had affected us as kids, we would all be running around darkened rooms, munching magic pills, and listening to repetitive electronic music.
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yep i like the wasted posting by you abby... 
weekend wasnt too bad... very very sore from footy... thinking about blazing up because i dont have to work tomorrow morning..
weekend wasnt too bad... very very sore from footy... thinking about blazing up because i dont have to work tomorrow morning..
woah
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Give it a go and see if you like it. I've been on bikes (off-road and on) for as long as I can remember. I don't even have a license to drive a car. That's how much I love bikes. I also had a couple of 125s. a 4-stroke (DRZ-125L) and a heavily modified 2-stroke (YZ125). Just take it easy and don't try doing a bunch of stunts like those squids you see in videos. They all wind up dead from it at some point.WeedGuru_Flow wrote:^hehe, because sometimes having a drunken posting spree on WG is all you need!
Good weekend, my friend finally got his KTM Duke bike, it's a 125CC but it sure looks sweet, contemplating one myself but I fear I am no bikeman :p
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my buddy just picked up a stash of mdma. when he told me he was buying it, i was like dude. you need to sell me some of it. i dont care if you dont wanna trip with me (he is my exs best friend, so i figured they were gonna trip together). i just wanna nice mdma day.
the shocking response was he sooo wanted to trip with me. weve done it together already like 4 times last year, and mike was like. you are hilarious and awesome to be on drugs with.
one of my fav memories of the past times trippin with mike is how we had a serious convo about moms. and he told me he loves his mom more then anyone ever. and now whenever i see his mom around town, it fills me with joy.
my other fav part is mike and i are tattooed and when we are on mdma it looks like the tattoos are painted on oil pastels and you could smudge them all over. its soooooooo cool.
the shocking response was he sooo wanted to trip with me. weve done it together already like 4 times last year, and mike was like. you are hilarious and awesome to be on drugs with.
one of my fav memories of the past times trippin with mike is how we had a serious convo about moms. and he told me he loves his mom more then anyone ever. and now whenever i see his mom around town, it fills me with joy.
my other fav part is mike and i are tattooed and when we are on mdma it looks like the tattoos are painted on oil pastels and you could smudge them all over. its soooooooo cool.

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