What is reality?

[WeedGuru_Flow]

^ wow remind me never to mess with you

come on whats NOT watching this going to do to him?

Nothing really, at least now I can rest assured I won't kill her by making her watch something she could never begin to comprehend.

And you don't want to know what I think you look like Andria, I don't want to cause any mental trauma.

[Mate]

reality is perception

yea - it's what you make out of it to survive.

[AbbyRoad]

reality is perception

yea - it's what you make out of it to survive.

im gonna expand on what i posted earlier...and no flow i havent watched the video yet.

i think there is a state of reality that is independant of our perceptions of it, yet that state is totally unreachable
we have only our psychical senses in which to attempt and make sense out of the external stimuli of reality, we take the information gathered by our weak sense organs and processes them through our "filters", the chemicals ones we have very little control over and the ones we develop through past experiences.
and thats how we get out view of reality....
i think lol

[zERo~Chronic]

reality is just signals in our brain picked up from our senses, pretty simple if you ask me

[logically]

reality is what you decide it is.

[weedguru_animal]

To quote the gremlin who started this thread..


"I have more important things to do like live life, then waste my time on the internet"


<3

Go get sterilized before you spawn an offspring, would you?

And it wouldn't hurt for you to actually watch something other than psytrance video's.

I suppose you keep in mind where your place is, pathetic xanax snorting hobo.

hard and needless, my friend...

[Mate]

reality is perception

yea - it's what you make out of it to survive.

im gonna expand on what i posted earlier...and no flow i havent watched the video yet.

i think there is a state of reality that is independant of our perceptions of it, yet that state is totally unreachable
we have only our psychical senses in which to attempt and make sense out of the external stimuli of reality, we take the information gathered by our weak sense organs and processes them through our "filters", the chemicals ones we have very little control over and the ones we develop through past experiences.
and thats how we get out view of reality....
i think lol

you're awesome abby, you always bring up good points and ideas in any threads.

i think memory gives your senses a meaning. Without memory - you wouldnt remember how bad a piece of shit tastes and you would probably eat a lot if you live by a farm. Your memory associate a 'shitty taste' symbol to shit - so everytime you see shit, whatver kind of shit it is, you know it tastes like.. shit.
These ''symbols'' helps your memory to organise your senses and help you to surive.

unfortunatly for us, our only way to perceive that universe around us are our 5 senses - Vision being the most used of them all.
Without vision we would be some lost creatures dieing because we couldnt even know what's going on. I know some creatures has no vision, but they evolved other senses to detect what's going on around them. These senses ; Are good exemples of ways to perceive the universe, we don't know how it feels to see the world with whale's echo sounds, but it works and help them to see and hear in pitchblack things we(humans) couldnt even see or detect.

That brings the idea of senses that are out of this world. that would allow us to perceive and detect things we never seen or tought about,just imagine all the thing you would miss if you were deaf, or couldnt taste anything ; That is what we're missing without these unknown sense. Detecting new things would allow us to understand our universe a little bit more, to enjoy more r of it's secrets - because we're not going to lie - it's amazing how tasty meat is, how delicious fruits are - How great a baking pie smells or how beautiful a girl can look. it's all perception.

Reality is just... there unfolding itself in an unending cycle of awesomenes going foward in time infinitly, impossible to stop. Reality is you, sitting on your chair and reading this post, the internet making it going to your home, the people who invented internet, the planet earth rotating and revolving around the sun, the certain birth of our solar system and the certain death of our galaxy, insects livings, black holes forming, child laughing, supernova exploding, animals dieing, Nebulas forming. it's all part of the same universe and all trigger their own reactions and event. Lucky is the entity who can perceive it ; whatever the way it is.



i was really high when i wrote this - so it might sound funny ^^

[logically]

hey!

good post!

[bobissmall1]

Okay, not to throw a wrench in the works, but hey, why not?

I disagree..... . . . .

I think reality is more concrete than mere perception. Three people who speak English look at a "red delicious" apple, and say it is red. Red is different wavelengths of light being absorbed into the apple's skin, and then allowing one wavelength (several actually, but we'll pretend it's one for the sake of simplicity) to reflect back. This happens (as far as we know) regardless of whether someone/something can perceive it or not.

It is facts like these I consider to be reality.

This is not to say that perception does not figure into reality however, but that it is not all that there is to reality. Just because we cannot prove that everyone with fully intact (what does that mean) sensory perception perceives things the same way does not mean that they don't, but I think that if a perceived stimulus is caused by outside factors and perceived in a way that is "accurate" then it is "real", and if it is not caused by outside factors or not perceived accurately (aka, in a way that the majority of "healthy" people perceive it. NOTE: this is not an exhaustive definition, but a working definition, there are exceptions) then it is not "real". This does not make it less valid, just less a part of the physical, sensory realm.

This definition does not apply to spiritual (if there is such a thing) things, nor does it apply to abstract concepts, such as love.

[logically]

lol I think my post is more right than both of yours

reality is what you make it.

we all shape our own realities.

mate's reality is exactly as he percieves it.

and bobissmall's reality is also exactly as he believes it is.

[wgToonces]

Okay, not to throw a wrench in the works, but hey, why not?

I disagree..... . . . .

I think reality is more concrete than mere perception. Three people who speak English look at a "red delicious" apple, and say it is red. Red is different wavelengths of light being absorbed into the apple's skin, and then allowing one wavelength (several actually, but we'll pretend it's one for the sake of simplicity) to reflect back. This happens (as far as we know) regardless of whether someone/something can perceive it or not.

It is facts like these I consider to be reality.

This is not to say that perception does not figure into reality however, but that it is not all that there is to reality. Just because we cannot prove that everyone with fully intact (what does that mean) sensory perception perceives things the same way does not mean that they don't, but I think that if a perceived stimulus is caused by outside factors and perceived in a way that is "accurate" then it is "real", and if it is not caused by outside factors or not perceived accurately (aka, in a way that the majority of "healthy" people perceive it. NOTE: this is not an exhaustive definition, but a working definition, there are exceptions) then it is not "real". This does not make it less valid, just less a part of the physical, sensory realm.

This definition does not apply to spiritual (if there is such a thing) things, nor does it apply to abstract concepts, such as love.

The facts about the apple are just facts though, like, it's a fact that I am breathing right now. Reality is not the fact I am breathing, my breathing is just a part of my reality.....Reality is how you percieve life is it not? So unless you percieve life to be a ray of absorbing apple light, then it's nothing more than what you make it?

If that doesn't make sense then blame me for being hungover.

[Mate]

obviously reality is more than perception. but the only thing you own to understand and see it is your 5 senses, unfortunatly.
i'd like to go deeper, but my knowledge is limited by my 5 senses.

facts like an apple being red, a person transforming oxygen in carbon to breath, a plant growing, the planet rotating ,all people and planet that born and died, all civilisations, everything that has been said and tought.. all that stuff are all part of reality, ... and whatever how you perceive them, they exist and they're there.
Like logic said - everyone perceive reality in their own way... but we're all in the same timeline and reality atm.. there's nobody that will be executed by the king tomorow because he did not do his labors - we're all in 2011.

[AbbyRoad]

Okay, not to throw a wrench in the works, but hey, why not?

I disagree..... . . . .

I think reality is more concrete than mere perception. Three people who speak English look at a "red delicious" apple, and say it is red. Red is different wavelengths of light being absorbed into the apple's skin, and then allowing one wavelength (several actually, but we'll pretend it's one for the sake of simplicity) to reflect back. This happens (as far as we know) regardless of whether someone/something can perceive it or not.

It is facts like these I consider to be reality.

This is not to say that perception does not figure into reality however, but that it is not all that there is to reality. Just because we cannot prove that everyone with fully intact (what does that mean) sensory perception perceives things the same way does not mean that they don't, but I think that if a perceived stimulus is caused by outside factors and perceived in a way that is "accurate" then it is "real", and if it is not caused by outside factors or not perceived accurately (aka, in a way that the majority of "healthy" people perceive it. NOTE: this is not an exhaustive definition, but a working definition, there are exceptions) then it is not "real". This does not make it less valid, just less a part of the physical, sensory realm.

This definition does not apply to spiritual (if there is such a thing) things, nor does it apply to abstract concepts, such as love.

there is obviously a reality outside of our perceptions of it

but the way i see it is that you cannot ever fully view the "real" reality because of perceptions
we can only make vague attempts to understand what we process from it

scientific knowledge and exploration helps us to get a clearer view of reality beyond our individual experiences and thus perception
but even than science isnt always right, just look at what people in history thought of as "proven by science" but ended up being proven incorrect when newer discoveries came to light.
thats the beauty of science its always correcting itself and trying to get closer to the universal truths

also personally i put a lot of weight on our "biological makeup" behind how we view reality. our preset filters if you will....
maybe ill explain in more detail later

[Mate]

a good knowledge of natural selection may help to understand the reality - because we adapt to it. Just understanding the eyes makes you realise tons of stuff about what you see and can't.

just all the tales and stories people tells about the ''6th sense'' is a great example of how limited is our gear.

[AbbyRoad]

about our eyes

we cant even see through the pupil. the part of our vision the pupil is pointed at receives no images(i cant remember the scientific explanation why)
but! our brains create an image of what should be where the pupil is, using the rest of our view. so we dont have to deal with a blank spot in our vision

its pretty fucking fantastic when you learn about the crazy tricks of the brain