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I'm sure everybody's noticed the hardcore spamming recently. I don't get the point, because no one's going to reward these annoying little shits by clicking on their links, but they don't seem to be going away, and nobody wants WG to end up an abandoned forum filled with nothing but links to "free porn" that actually go to paysites where all the previews have those little star things over the nips and....

...but I'm getting off ( :wink: ) my original topic. I guess my question is: are any plans being made to prevent this from happening? It's obviously people and not bots, because of the confirmation code required for registering. [[EDIT: Or ARE they bots, I wonder... The confirmation code is pretty clear. Places like Yahoo and Hotmail are much more difficult to decipher.]] That would severely cut down on options for filtering. I just had a few ideas that came to mind, so I figured I'd share them.


1. Invitation Only

If anyone here ever tried to get a Gmail invite when it first came out, you know what I'm talking about. Lock down the forum so guests don't even know it's here, and hand out a certain number of invites to people (tied into seeds, anyone?) If anybody wants to join the WG community, they can track down an existing member and request an invite.

PROS: Would definitely make it easier to screen out some spammers, would probably improve the quality of the members coming in (as opposed to "I'm gonna join this forum just so I can make one post to trick people into going to goatse"),

CONS: I didn't know anybody in this forum when I first found it, would require people to go through other forums to meet people from WG (which kinda invalidates the whole thing), would require re-working the registration system, as well as making a system to manage invites.


2. Request Only

About 2 years ago, I had a goth girlfriend (yeah, I know) who was a big fan of DarkPoetry.com. I was never overly impressed with angsty little kids, but I liked the way you got a guest account there: you could get a basic membership by writing a little paragraph about yourself and why you wanted to join. You could also get a more permanent membership just by sending in a postcard with your name on it. Personally, I'm always broke, but a postcard and a stamp aren't entirely out of my reach.

PROS: Postcard would be a good way of filtering out people who are serious (doesn't take a lot of time, money, or effort, but is a good way of showing that you at least care enough to spend $1.40. Even request would be useful, because you could have a sub-forum dedicated to incoming requests, and we could all vote on it using the existing poll system. It would also be cool to have scans of the postcards (front and back) online.

CONS: One of the more obvious ones is nationality. Postage between different countries can get pricey, and we all have much better, greener things to spend our money on. Also, a spammer might still be tempted to write a convincing-sounding request that would let him get in just long enough to post 5-10 ads.


3. Donation Only

First of all, let me start by saying that my broke ass is the last one in the world that should be suggesting a donation to join the forums, but let us palaver on the topic anyways for a moment. A 50-cent (30p, 5 pesos, etc.) donation isn't much, and anybody with a bank account can set up a PayPal account. It would contribute to the upkeep of the forum, and show that you're serious about it.

PROS: PayPal is relatively easy, but...

CONS: ... many people don't have a bank account, and those under the age of 18 may not be able to set one up without their parent's permission. Said parents may also object to even a small amount of money going to "Weed Guru". There's also the fact that paying to talk to people on a forum is not really something I would do.


4. "Trial" Sub-Forum

Make it so that new members can only post in a designated area for the first 7 days. Have it so that there's a little "- / +" button right next to their name that you can click to vote to reject them or accept them. If they get enough ban votes, they're gone. If they're not entirely useless, the trial restrictions are removed. This doesn't have to be time-based, it could also be point-based.

PROS: There's already ways in phpBB to create classes of user that have different access to different forums. You could use the seeds as points. It would also keep all the idiots confined to one area, while easily allowing promising members to be picked from the rabble.

CONS: If it was a community responsibility to monitor the trial forum, how many people would actually log on and want to check the "spam forum"? There's also the matter of complicating things with more coding, and decisions about how many positive/negative votes for certain things, etc.



Anyway, these were just my thoughts on the matter. I'd like to hear people's opinions on the spam problem.
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Post by stratoskater »

Heres my idea..
redirect the spammers to www.adultsheepfinder.com
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Post by linkkid »

They all kind of sound bad in my opinion except the last one. BECAUSE what if a person had the time to write a paragraph, send invites and keep massing them.
That'd suck right? So what you have to do is make a sub-forum for guests only.. Or make it easy on ourselves, 10 posts just to make a topic.
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Post by Cap'n Peg Leg »

I agree with you TOTALLY about the spam problem, its getting rediculous
I think #1 is a little out of the question, I personally wouldnt have tried to find someone with the same username on another form so I could read this one, I would have just joined another one
#2 is cool, except for the postcard bit, i dunno, it just seems like a ton of would be cool members wouldnt bother sending a postcard to some website, but the about me paragraph thing seems cool
I think #3 is never gonna happen, plus a TON of people wouldnt ever be able to get until they are 18, and alot of people here are under 18 (including me! =S)
I personally really like #4, it could be like a community service to vote, a way for people to give back to weedguru by filtering out complete idiots and spammers, and maybe you could get seeds for it? I know I would do it everyonce in awhile, just to help out
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Post by sickkid90 »

i just lmfao at that web site man.!!! ahhahahaha i think that whole request only thing would be good... cept why exactly would we need to send in postcards? cant we just write an e-mail to some peeps saying out name blah blah blah a little about ourselves. social security number, credit card pin, address, phone number you know all that fun stuff that people could steal your identity with (you can all send me that stuff if you'd like :D) but no seriously, i think that would be a good idea
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Post by MrWizard »

stratoskater wrote:Heres my idea..
redirect the spammers to www.adultsheepfinder.com
Hmm.. you're on the right track, but that's not nearly bad enough. Something more like goatse or tubgirl.

(And in case anyone's wondering, neither one of these is supposed to be links. I don't know the exact URLs, and there is no reason why anyone should ever need to.)
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Post by linkkid »

Or we could call A mod off Skype.com :) and verify it there.
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Post by sickkid90 »

what exactly are goatse and tubgirl?
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Post by SpRi7e »

This has come up quite a few times and there aren't really that many things that can fix bots from joining a server other than having a limit to how long you registered to post a new topic or a link in a message. There is also another thing that makes it harder to make the code to confirm the account.
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Post by linkkid »

Oh no no, bagslap.com meatspin.com thewillpower.org bopper.com

and if your wondering where I got these, a sick and perverted friend :(
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Post by SpRi7e »

sickkid90 wrote:what exactly are goatse and tubgirl?
google search tub girl, but beware it's ummmm...pretty fucked up

or thewillpower.org ;-)

ok no don't go on that site it's just too sick
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Post by MrWizard »

So far, it seems like we're all more on less on the same page as far as what everybody thinks would work and wouldn't work.

What about a combination of things... like new members would have to write a little paragraph about themselves, and would get a quick glance to filter out the obvious spammers and idiots, and then they would have restrictions on posting like what linkkid was saying?
sickkid90 wrote:what exactly are goatse and tubgirl?
Very, very, bad things. I think I'm going to regret posting those two words.
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Post by sickkid90 »

what do you mean by "pretty fucked up" and "too sick" like.... a porn with chicks being ripped in half or what are we talking about?
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Post by Cap'n Peg Leg »

yeessss, a combination would be best im thinkin
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Post by SpRi7e »

well almost 3/4 of the new people only post maybe once or twice when they're stoned and then they never come back so it would reduce a lot of new comers.
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