Cocaine

Weedguru Anex · Post by **Weedguru Anex** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:32 pm

Yes... if you say so. I've been going to raves up and down the country for years now and I have only ever known two people to come to any harm through extacy. One of them collapsed and no one seems to know why, they were fine afterwards, the other one was me because I overheated. Just went outside, had a bottle of water and felt fine again.
Look up some extacy stats on google, I bet you there are hardly any hospitalisations due to it and I bet its got some of the lowest stats compared to other drugs.

weedguru_asmodeus · Post by **weedguru_asmodeus** » Sat Jul 12, 2003 12:42 pm

with regards to the original post on cocaine...

the addictiveness of cocaine - and ecstasy for thatmatter - is that the first time you try it the high is amazing, and you will want to achieve this state again, but you need to take more of the drug as you become more immune to its effects.

with coke you feel super confident but the feeling wears off fairly quickly, so you need frequent top ups, and the cost is a hell of a lot.

ecstasy is hard for me to explain - but basically you love the music and the people around you, and the people all love you too (you think anyway) and when i say love i mean love. this feeling last quite a while - but the more used to it you are, the quicker it goes, so you take more e's in a short spae of time - when they are going for only £3 a pop - its not very expensive thing to do.

After the first time - the high isnt quite as good. all you can remember about it was the truly amazing feeling you had. when you dont quite reach this state in your subsequent attempts, you tend to take a litle more to reach this goal some people i know have taken so many e's in one night its shocking. but basically all you want to achieve is the same as the first high.

this beomes a bit of a viscious cycle as you have more and more and the effects are less and less until you feel eventually that you need the drug to have a good night. ifyou go to a club and dont take an e, the night just isnt complete and you will be thinking about it all the time. same with coke - you miss that confident feeling and clear thought high - if you take itnormally on a night out, then you will be missing its effects.

but the more into these drugs you become the more terrible is the come down. from e you comedown afetr a few hours - and from a saturday night party you might not finish your comedown until wednesday - and this comedown makes you feel so miserable its unbeliveable. very grumpy.

with coke you can feel it leaving your system almost - constant top ups or your coming down - doesnt make for a good night!

Im not too clued up on the mortality statistics, but both these drugs really can have a negative long term affect on your brain.

Smoky · Post by **Smoky** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:09 pm

yeh ur first pills r amazing, but u build up a tolerence realy fast ive not had an e for about 2 or 3 weeks now so my tollerence will have gone down alot, Ive never had a comedown of xtc, i have no idea y this is?
the last time i took it. I was with my two m8s and took 2 e's at once then an hour l8er i took another 1. Then b4 it kicked in my mum rang me up and sed that i had to go to the doctors for an appointment and i was riding around streets off my hed with my walkman on thinkin wat to do. I ended up going home and i sed i couldn't go cos i felt sick. But she forced me to go, wen i got in the car it was daylight and cos it was so bright my pupils had gone small but wen i looked at them in the mirror they were going big and small?? it was weired. But ne way i got to the doctors and my mum had a look at me and saw my pupils and i was sweating and gurning. She was tryin to stay calm, but she kept callin me a little bastard and i was takin the piss askin for hugs and laughing!!
wen i went in the doctors office he was lookin at me vary strangely but he never sed nothin, cos he probably thought my mum didn't know.

Wen i got bak my mum told me that she used to take them (which i never knew) and she sed once she was takin loads and she ODed she sed that evry thin went ded far away from her and she felt like she was sinking. she sed to me if that ever happens uve gotta got up and throw urself all over the place and run like fuck otherwise u will b fuked.
So u can OD but it's rare

Weedguru Anex · Post by **Weedguru Anex** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:14 pm

Smoky wrote:my pupils and i was sweating and gurning

That is the come down. I get them pretty bad, lasts about three days with me after taking about four. I never get the loved up effects everyone else has tho, it really doesn't do that much for me, only used them for the energy really.

Smoky · Post by **Smoky** » Sun Jul 13, 2003 2:16 pm

no , i was sweating nad gurning while i was trippin on them that wasn't the comedown, the next day(s) after an e i feel fine if not better than normal

WakeNbake · Post by **WakeNbake** » Sat Jul 19, 2003 8:40 pm

personal experience... advice: dont do it cuz once ur hooked ur fucked

BOOL · Post by **BOOL** » Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:28 am

Hard drugs just arn't worth it stick to weed shrooms and alcohol

BOOL · Post by **BOOL** » Fri Aug 08, 2003 10:15 pm

WakeNbake wrote:personal experience... advice: dont do it cuz once ur hooked ur fucked

Are you talkin about cocain or XTC?

2~Sexy~Potheads · Post by **2~Sexy~Potheads** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 3:12 am

I dont think you should do coke cuz it will just screw wit your life, i dont no one person thats done coke and doesnt regret it!!!
And as far as E goes its great at the time then it makes you really depressed and you wont to keep doing it just to keep you happy so just stick to the natural shit cuz its not that bad in the end!!!!
GOOD LUCK

Statikal · Post by **Statikal** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 7:02 am

Dont do cocaine, coke is fucking stupid

Weedguru Anex · Post by **Weedguru Anex** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 11:32 am

Jeez! I bet half the people posting here haven't even tried coke. You don't die or loose all your money or turn to crime or even become addicted to it from just doing it now and again. Loads of people I know like to have a few lines every now and again, I still do it on occaisions, if I'm at a rave or something and need the energy. Its not even that addictive.
Its not the greatest drug in the world, it only fuels your ego which is never a good thing, but atleast you haven't got to feel like crap for the next three days like with xtc etc.

token_pyr0 · Post by **token_pyr0** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 5:48 pm

Well, i'd like to thnx Anex for sticking up for XTC, its not bad at all, and i move major amounts, its actually the safest drug atm, as long as u know what ur getting, which isnt that hard. i'll give some advce. DONT DO IT, UNLESS U KNOW WHAT UR DOING!
MDMA is great, and its not dangerous to the body for the most part, which means u need some high amounts. Now, it all comes down to the pills u want. thers about 1000+ types of XTC in the world. From pure MDMA, to 1% MDMA and 99% Coke/ Heroin.
Theres also 2 types, Mashy, and rushy. The one everyone knows is Rushy, cuz u dont want mash at a rave. that'd just ruin your night =b.
Furthermore only reason you drink the water is because XTC makes you dance/active/doing something, which in turn takes energy, so you be come dehydrated(sp?). So you need to drink water. DRINKING WATER DOESNT "CURE" XTC. Just because you drink lots of water doesnt mean u'll always be ok, but, make sure u drink enuff thruought the 6 - 8 hours ur tripping (depending on how much u take).
Next, make sure the pills are pressed with a symbol or some form of marking, if they arn't..WALK THE OTHER WAY. Make sure u know its lab produced. MDMA is a very easy drug to make, takes about 3 hours, and $60 to make 1000 pills. And all of it can be bought at ur pharmiacy. Now, home made MDMA is MUCH stronger then manufactured MDMA, on the basis that in the lab, they want profit.
Coke, on the other hand is a different story, and in another post because i think this one is long enuff =b. But yes, those are my 2 cents bout my favourite drug, so dont knock it till ya try it, and yes, its not the best drug for everyone, and yes i did leave out some facts, and other ones that wouldnt support my argument obviousy =b, but overall, thats the lo-down on XTC.

uptownzhaze · Post by **uptownzhaze** » Sun Aug 10, 2003 8:20 pm

yea yayo is pretty bad the first time u do it u really dont know what u feeling cause it isnt like weed high. it just makes you hyper u talk a lot u dont want to eat anything cause it taste like shit. when the high is gone u cant sleep at all and u start to fiend for it and think about it. the feeling of fiend for coke is so much worse then fiend for weed and so more expensive. but yea u do feel good like no one can fuck with you.

Caro · Post by **Caro** » Mon Aug 11, 2003 7:08 am

Anex - I don't play with fire anymore coz I burned myself real bad. Maybe you just haven't yet dropped the metaphorical match in the rubbing alcohol bottle, so to speak. Believe me, it has the power to destroy.
Peace.

Weedguru Anex · Post by **Weedguru Anex** » Tue Aug 12, 2003 2:04 pm

Fucking hell I'm getting sick of this everytime someone posts a realistic comment about cocaine or xtc or whatever. READ THE POSTS PEOPLE! I can't stress that enough. I did not say ANYWHERE coke isn't addictive and can't ruin your life, I'm just a bit fed up of everyone on here preaching away at people, not actually having a clue what they are talking about. I'd put money on it that there is less than one in ten people who actually get a coke addiction from using it now and again. In the UK its use is huge, but everyone doesn't get instantly addicted to it so no one hears about it. I'm not saying its a good thing, I'm just fed up of reading crap about it all the time.
I'm sorry you fucked up on it but that doesn't mean everyone does. If you start doing it in the first place its always going to be a gamble, ultimately the decision lies firmly in your hands.

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