Muhamad Cartoons

[weedguru_animal]

I dont think that the british army are any better than the US army when it comes to human rights. However the Brits generally adopt a far more clandestine approach(than their american counteparts) to anything which the public might find evil or unsavoury. in short the brits seem to be more aware of the importance of public perception.

I would be dumb to assume that nobody else higher/lower in the military hierachy knew about tha behaviour seen in the video; its a huge organisation and constraints of behaviour are set by some individuals in that chain, but will they get punished for the crimes we see on tv and in the papers??NO, because yes as you say Rotten, the only ones who get punished are those stupid enough to get caught.....

As for your 'tip of the iceberg' statement...we gotta all get together and spread awareness of whats really going on, in the world, what the leaders we elect are REALLY doing and WHY? and also how the fuck can we stop them?????

Your views on this matter aren't a million miles away from my own..above all else in the world I deplore abuse of power.....

[Spike_dwk]

No religion in the world endorses killing. It is people who misinterpret/abuse religion that endorse killing. So Mr Carlin, as much as I like you, you're totally fucking wrong on that one..

smart ass point: ...some of them do like the ones where u sacrifice things

real point: he wasn't saying that they endorse it he was talking about things like the crusades where they went to turn everybody into their religion and when people didn't convert they got all mad and killed them...in a different one i think he says something like "do you worship god? no? kill him.......do you worship god? yes? do you worship our god? no? kill him" ...........btw...i like my smart ass point more

[Dr. Greenthumb]

By RIAZ KHAN
Associated Press Writer

PESHAWAR, Pakistan

A Pakistani cleric announced a $1 million bounty for killing a cartoonist who drew the Prophet Muhammad as thousands joined street protests after Friday prayers.

Denmark, which first published the cartoons, temporarily closed its embassy and advised its citizens to leave Pakistan.

Prayer leader Mohammed Yousaf Qureshi announced the bounty for killing a cartoonist to about 1,000 people outside the historic Mohabat Khan mosque in the northwestern city of Peshawar.

He said the mosque and the Jamia Ashrafia religious school he leads would give a $25,000 reward and a car for killing the cartoonist who drew the prophet caricatures _ considered blasphemous by Muslims. He said a local jewelers' association would also give $1 million, but no representative of the association was available to confirm the offer.

"Whoever has done this despicable and shameful act, he has challenged the honor of Muslims. Whoever will kill this cursed man, he will get $1 million dollars from the association of the jewelers bazaar, one million rupees ($16,700) from Masjid Mohabat Khan and 500,000 rupees ($8,350) and a car from Jamia Ashrafia as a reward," Qureshi said.

"This is a unanimous decision of by all imams of Islam that whoever insults the prophets deserves to be killed and whoever will take this insulting man to his end, will get this prize," he said.

Qureshi did not name any cartoonist in his announcement and he did not appear aware that 12 different people had drawn the pictures.

A Danish newspaper, Jyllands-Posten, first printed the prophet pictures in September. The newspaper has since apologized to Muslims for the cartoons, one of which shows Muhammad wearing a bomb-shaped turban. Other Western newspapers, mostly in Europe, have reprinted the pictures, asserting their news value and the right to freedom of expression.

In Denmark, a spokesman for the Jyllands-Posten said the newspaper did not want to comment on the bounty offer. But Mogens Blicher Bjerregaard, president of the Danish Journalist Union and spokesman for the cartoonists, condemned it.

"It is totally absurd what is happening. The cartoonists just did their job and they did nothing illegal," he said.

He said the cartoonists _ who have been living under police protection since last year _ are aware of the reward and are "feeling bad about the whole situation." He did not say whether their security had been stepped up.

Security forces were out in strength throughout Pakistan Friday, particularly around government offices and Western businesses, as Muslims streamed onto the streets after prayers. More than 200 people were detained, but most gatherings were peaceful.

Unrest over the cartoons has spiraled in Pakistan. Riots in Lahore and Peshawar this week caused millions of dollars in damage. Hundreds of vehicles were burned and protesters targeted U.S. and other foreign businesses, including KFC, McDonald's, Citibank, Holiday Inn and Norwegian cell phone company Telenor. Five people were killed.

Intelligence officials have said scores of members of radical and militant Islamic groups, such as Jamaat al-Dawat, joined the protests in Lahore on Tuesday and incited violence in a bid to undermine President Gen. Pervez Musharraf's government, a close ally of the United States.

On Friday, police confined Jamaat al-Dawat's leader, Hafiz Mohammed Saeed, to his home in Lahore to stop him from addressing supporters in the city of Faisalabad, about 75 miles away, his spokesman Yahya Mujahid said.

Saeed used to lead Lashkar-e-Tayyaba, a banned militant group.

A senior police official in Lahore who confirmed Saeed's detention said the government had ordered police to restrict the movement of all religious leaders who might address rallies and to round up religious activists "who could be any threat to law and order."

The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the matter.

In Islamabad, visiting former President Bill Clinton criticized the cartoons but said Muslims wasted an opportunity to build better ties with the West by holding violent protests.

"I can tell you, most people in the United States deeply respect Islam ... and most people in Europe do," he said.

Denmark, meanwhile, said it had temporarily closed its embassy in Pakistan and urged Danes to leave the country. Last week, Denmark temporarily shut its embassies in Lebanon, Syria, Iran and Indonesia.

Pakistan recalled its ambassador to Denmark for "consultations" about the cartoons, Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Tasnim Aslam said.

Friday's protests were mostly free of violence though police used tear gas and batons in isolated incidents. About 7,000 protested in Rawalpindi, 5,000 in the southwestern city of Quetta and 5,000 in Karachi.

In neighboring India, police used batons and tear gas to disperse thousands of angry worshippers who rioted in the southern city of Hyderabad. They burned Danish flags, pelted police with stones, and looted shops. Hundreds more protested in Bangladesh.

[Dr. Greenthumb]

a $1 million dollar bounty on my head and i would be afraid to even brush my teeth in the morning. it will be interesting to see how effective some of these radicals are at assassination attempts instead of suicide bombing.

another interesting thing is how these riots have helped bushes anti-islam campaign. you have to admit he couldnt have worked it out better if he would have planned it himself.

[Mr Rotten Treats]

Of course not. In that perspective, 9/11 was a godsend.

[Mr Rotten Treats]

Violence after the cartoons, round two:

In Nigeria, hundreds of militia, mostly christians, have attacked and killed over 150 muslims, and wounded hundreds more. They also attacked and destroyed many houses and mosques.

[sarcasm]

Christians worldwide, this is a clear example of the fact that your religion preaches violence and hatred!

[/sarcasm]

[Dr. Greenthumb]

now look whos calling the kettle black...that was interesting do you know if they were catholic or protestant? im not surprised at all about that one most likely these christians had a problem in the country with the muslims and they used this all as an excuse. i dont remember but were muslims rioting in nigeria?

as for your 911 comment i really dont think that muslims were responsible for 911. although osama was more than happy to take credit for it i dont think that he masterminded it. im going to stop talking now due to the fact that im not even sure what my government is capable of anymore.

[Mr Rotten Treats]

Dude, did you even read the sarcasm tags there? And yes, they were christian militia. You can confirm that on any news source.

[Dr. Greenthumb]

sorry completely missed that...oh well it made for a good laugh