HPS Question

[Shredd]

Yo, I'm going to have about 2-3 plants in my box.
What wattage HPS should I get?
Do I have to worry about hot/cold wavelengths as with floros?
Is Ebay a good place to get them off? They seem cheap there, but not sure?
Will one HPS do the trick throughout vegetation/flowering?
Any tips?

[Weedguru Higher]

400

[Badass]

A 400W will do a 3x3ft space nicely! Make sure you have an extractor fan too 4" minimum id say. E-Bay is ok but buy from someone who has a really good rating.

[Weedguru Gooster]

400w minimum.
DONT get HPS bulb first. FIRST get a Metal Hallide, for vegetative growth. This is really great because you can get a Conversion Bulb for the HPS when you go to budding stage, and pop a HPS in THEN. Its too red and orange, and the color temp (K) is off for good vege growth. MH on the other hand is perfect. You will get leggy plants with really long internodal length if you grow with a HPS even a good one like SonAgro. So get a 400w ballast, get a MH light with it, and buy the HPS conversion bulb at the same time. Fuck ebay, get it from a grow store or supply store in your town, if something goes wrong you can take it back.
I just spent another $120 on assorted stuff, a Ph digital pen, some Chi foliar, some Flora Shield for my reservior (anti-bacterial) and thats it. 120$ US down the drain. I spent about $595 on the 400w ballast (hydrofarm 400w Sunburst series, 400w MH clear bulb by Venture, HPS conversion bulb by Phillips (360w goes in the 400w ballast) and an Ebb and Flow hydroponic garden. The whole line of Hydrofarm nutrients, FloraGrow, FloraBloom, FloraMicro, Chi, Diamond Nectar, Flora Shield, and Kabloom. Ive got a CO2 regulator by Green Air on order - thats another $300. So total at about $1000 for the whole thing minus electricity.

What will happen: (based on my personal experience) I will grow 6-8 4' tall female plants and harvest about 4oz minimum off each one. Call it 8 oz as thats a half pound. 8 plants x 8oz each = 4lbs. I can sell that for $3600 a lbs. here, if I want to, which means in the first harvest I recoup my expenses of $1000 and if I sell it all (no way) have $14,000 or so to pocket. I can do this 3x per year easy, meaning I can grow about $45,000 of weed a year in a 3x3x6 closet. For a $1,000 investment where I didnt cut corners so that I got the best possible results.
Ive set up friends rooms, like spare bedrooms, and they make about 100,000$ a year just selling what they grow. Imagine that...
Time to play Xbox, anyone?

Goo

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Gooster, you're the man! Really know your stuff

To bad you didn't leave near me cause between the two of us we could get a kick ass grow going!!

[Weedguru Gooster]

Thank you, I really appreciate the kind words. Have you ever noticed how it seems much easier to insult or attack / whatever negative it is online toward someone than it is to say something kind - at least it would appear so from the number of negative posts to posts like yours - just a simple compliment. If I had a dollar for every time Ive been flamed online Id be rich. If I had a hundred dollars for every kind post directed my way without any hidden agenda I would have... well a hundred dollars now

I learned a lot about growing by reading first, buying the highest quality equipment I can, and following the directions, something anyone can do given the cash front. I never understood people cutting corners on lights, and I prefer hydro for its amazing growth rate and tendency to be 100% controllable. Shoot, if I didnt have the cash (I am lucky that I do, Ive worked hard my whole life) I would use a credit card, borrow from a rich smoker friend, etc Promise them a pound of weed in exchange for a loan of 1000$ to be repaid in full in six months WITH a pound on top for their kindness. This gives you two cycles to produce a pound each time - even if you sort of flail you can still get 2lbs in a megagarden per full cycle. Sell one for 3,000$ pay your buddy, and give him a lbs. Leaves one lbs. for you in a worst case, and Ive never had that bad a grow session.

It is too bad you arent near. Now I work in the cannibus club so I get tons of clones, lots of great strains, weed for free or maybe 20$ an eight if I feel like chipping in - its also taught me the sort of finishing school of growing pot.

Im very happy to be able to help here - I just wish more people grew weed on this site - it seems about 5% or less actually does from the posts. Lots seem to be high school kids trying to just get something going. If that is the case with whoever reads this, think OUTDOORS, one crop a year, plant in spring. Plant FAR from trails, hikers, etc. Hump some water out and create an uphill reservior using rainwater and water carried in a big backpack - a frame backpack and sturdy back can carry maybe 10lbs of water (thats 80lbs of weight guys!) per trip. Set up drip hose lines DOWNHILL from the reserviors, thin lines so you dont lose all the water at once. Burry the reservoirs (I like 50lbs garbage cans, one per plant, dig hole and plant the plastic can. Run drip lines from it downhill to the plants.) This works great - gravity is a wonderful thing. Cover the hoses with scrub and dirt, and no one will hopefully find your stash.

HARDEST PART - not going to see how they are doing 3x a week. You get them in the ground after seeds pop and they are a few inches tall, and dont go back except once a month to check water supply. Maybe a bit of clipping to create more bud nodes. In September you will have 14 foot tall pot trees with maybe 4 lbs of weed on each.

Its quite the reward for little effort.

Goo
(thx again for the kind words, my friend)


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[Weedguru Higher]

No prob, I speak the truth

I know what you mean about not having hardcore growers here, kinda sucks but o well, it is kinda interesting helping out the noobs .I am just glad that someone else who knows there stuff has showed up here. I do feel rather alone in my explanations at times. You seem to answer very elaboratley, which is great. i have a hard time answering in so much detail because english is not exactly my first language really. Takes me a while to post a big essay in english.

That grow club...you mean medical marijuana or what? but isnt that stuff like less potent than real weed? thats the info I have maybe it is wrong?

[Weedguru Gooster]

Yes its a medical marajuana club. I live in California, we passed a state law making it legal to use pot for medical purposes - you need to get a doctor - a real one - to write you a prescription for it. Then you go get an ID like a drivers license that has your photo, the experiation date of the prescription (usually a year) and all the holograms etc so they are totally hard - almost impossible - to fake.

Then you can go to these clubs - here in the Bay Area there are about 30 or so. At first it was out of control - sort of mini-Amsterdam, but now they are regulating it the way the law intended. The pot we sell and grow and clone are all the top grades. We get seeds from Amsterdam - Ed Rosenthal of High Times Magazine and the Cannibus Cup awards is a regular donar of both grown weed and seeds and clones for our dispensary, for example.

Today we had White Widow, Afghan Kush, Purple Urkle, Bubblegum, AK-47, Afghani, Pink Panther, Double Bubble and some Deep South for the folks who dont have as much money. If they have no money and file income report with us we give away low grade weed free to them. Its medicine - we wont deny it over some money - we make enough selling it to people who can afford it - usually 50$ an eight.

We also sell clones. No hash or opium or anything, just fantastic pot.

I never noticed any problems with your English - it is better than mine certainly. I am long winded so I tend to write long posts, plus I hate when I ask a question and I get a short answer which does not really answer the question, so I tend to "over-answer" rather than leave out something. I too wish there were more growers, perhaps we can convince these kids that paying for weed is silly when you can grow it practically free I know a thousand dollars sounds like a lot, but as I showed your first crop usally pays for everything you bought, and leaves you knee high in pot.

What sort of system do you use? Do you use CO2? Hydroponic? Where do you live?

Goo, about to smoke a huge spliff of White Widow

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I live in the province of Quebec in Canada.

I do strictly grows in soil, have no experience whatsover with true hydroponic growing. Though I tend to use that term for indoor growing...

I grow both indoor and out, although this year there is no grow at all do to my particular situation

I have used CO2 canisters on an indoor grow before, just once though. One of my friends doesit regularily and he talked me in to trying it. But frankly I didn't see a huge difference so I stopped using it.

I usually do indoor grows that range anywhere from 100-200 full grown plants. Also do alot of clippings, have clipped out as many as 1000 clones from 12 different mother plants at one time. Outdoors, I noramally do patched of 50 plants, never over 200 plants. Usually wind up getting them stolen or busted

I do Northern Light and Freezlyn strains. I have regualr clone suppliers who grow indoors year around, its the same shit year around. So next year when I re grow I just gotta hook up with them for some clones, seeing as I have lost mine...again.

[Weedguru Gooster]

Man nice! I bet its tasty in the soil with the sun supply. I get tired of smoking the same weed all the time, I have 5 or 6 bags of different strains right now, and Im growing 6 strains in 9 plants in my growroom. Ive never bought seeds - saw a price of several hundred dollars which was so amazing I thought it was a typo. I get the clones for free, but I really need to get some mother plants going so that if I stop working there or the Federal Govt shuts us down I will still have a source of cuttings and clones for the future. I never get seeds in weed anymore - havent seen one in years, so I am restricted to high quality clones
Email me sometime, maybe next time Im in Seattle we can hook up - unless you are no where near there. I go several times a year.
Peace,
Goo