Rap "Music"

[weedguru tom]

then he is a tool haha

[Weedguru Anex]

This must be going for the most narrow minded thread on the board award 8 pages and such a pointless thread in the first place. Quality

[BUDA]

[b]I really suprised that most people who have replied to this really dont like hiphop or rap which ever you are all talking about cus on the surface rap music is dominated by a bunch well twats eminem and 50 cent i dont like that i just wanted to say that below that shit there is groups of talented rappes black and white who make the best music ive ever heard and just because you havent herd of them it doesnt mean you should lable all hiphop or rap as SHIT cus well its not! [/b]

[raggamuffin]

as usual caro knows the score innit... of course hiphops been hijacked by big white labels that want to sell certain images, and of course there will always be opportunistic people- usually living in shit to start with- that will be happy to sell that shit. blatantly its gone further than that now but its still the fact that record labels pimp rappers and its incredibly difficult to get played if you're on a conscious tip. look at KRS-one, that man is a genius, more sampled probably than anyone else, but he sold 2000 COPIES OF HIS LAST ALBUM!!! people are making it but all you mtvs heads are dismissing it cos you believe it is about 40s and 44s and bitches and all that. i MAKE real hip hop goddamn it and anyone who says that that manufactured shit is real deserves death. hiphops about elevation of the black struggle. i dont see 50 cent doing anything to help the hood get new schools and playgrounds...do you?

[raggamuffin]

[Go back to funk or jazz, black folk.[/quote]

what the fuck!!! "black folk"????? how condescending can you get? may as well say go back to the trees, monkey! as if all black music since the abolition of slavery hasnt been hijacked by white labels! rap and hiphop are expressions of this fact as well: that "we are not gonna get fucked around anymore" fuck a load of white twats who dont understand the history and meaning, and are stupid enough to not see past the ways big conservative business tries to demonise blacks. and at the end of the day, when you're providing fuck all education for ghetto kids, how are loads of them gonna understand themselves how mtv shit is dragging the black cause centuries backward...all you're gonna see is money, and if you have to say offensive shit why not? after all, we all laugh at offensive stuff, that's why racist jokes are allowed on this website... and by the way i'm white, i just have clarity

[Funk Doctor]

Besides, hiphop has nothing to do with being black or white in the first place.

It's a way of life, not something you do to get cash or women.

[Caro]

I think the best way to get through to someone who hates "rap music" is to hit them with some heavy beats with political lyrics and intricate melodies. If you could listen to some of the shit I listen to, I don't see how you could not groove. Listen to this song, it's called Cocaine Revolution by Immortal Technique.

[Intro: from the film "Scarface"]
Host: I've heard whispers about the financial support
your government receives from the drug industry.

Guest: Well, the irony of this, of course, is that
this money, which is in the billions, is coming from
your country. You see, you are the major purchaser of
our national product, which is of course cocaine.

Host: On one hand, you're saying the United States
government is spending millions of dollars to
eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the
same time, we are doing business with the very same
goverment that is flooding our streets with cocaine.

Guest: Mmm-hmm, si, si. Let me show you a few other
characters that are involved in this tragic comedy.

[Beat starts]

*Two Men Speak in Spanish*

[Immortal Technique - Worker]
I'm on the border of Bolivia, working for pennies
Treated like a slave, the coca fields have to be ready
The spirit of my people is starving, broken and sweaty
Dreaming about revolution (REVOLUTION!) looking at my machete
But the workload is too heavy to rise up in arms
And if I ran away, I know they'd probably murder my moms
So I pray to "Heso Preisto" when I go to the mission
Process the cocaine, paced and play my position

[Pumpkinhead - Cocaine Field Boss]
Ok, Juan Valdez, just give me my product
Before we chop off ya hands for worker's misconduct
I got the power to shoot a copper, and not get charged
And it would be sad to see your family in front of a firing squad
So to feed your kids, I need these bricks
40 tons in total, let me test it, indeed I (*sniff*)
Shit, this is good, pass me a tissue
And don't worry about them, I paid off the officials

[Diabolic - Peruvian Leader]
Yo, it don't come as a challenge, I'm the son of some of the foulest
Elected by my people...the only one on the ballot
Born and bred to consult with feds, I laugh at fate
And assassinate my predecessor to have his place
In a third-world fashion state, lock the nation
With 90% of the wealth in 10% of the population
The Central Intelligence Agency takes weight faithfully
The finest type of China white and cocaine you'll see

[Tonedeff - American Drug Distributor]
Honey I'm home, nevermind why our bank account's suddenly grown
It's funny, we're so out of this debt from this money we owe
Woulda ya...mind if I told you I had two governments overthrown
To keep our son enrolled in a private school, and to keep ya tummy swollen
C'mon, our fuckin' home was built on the foundation of bloody throats
The hungry stolen of they souls, of course this country's runnin' coke
I took a stunted oath to hush the one's who know
But CIA conducts the flow of these young hustlers who lust for dough

[Poison Pen - Drug Dealer]
I don't work in the hood (Hit my connect)
Plus what's really good, they supply work for the hood
These dudes fucking crack me up, scrutinize like we inferior
Petrified when we meet in my area (calm down)
My dude's'll shoot until I say so, got the loot?
Give me the YAY YAY like Ice Cube, so don't play with my llello
We won't stop for you bastards
Must choose (?), chop it and bag it

[Loucipher - Undercover Police Officer]
Taking pictures and tapping phones
Debating snitches and cracking codes
Past a couple, blast the fo',
Want any hustler stacking dough with probably crack the blow
And my overtime is where your taxes go
I gain your trust
Get you to hand weight to us because we paid up front
On the low with cameras taping ya
Getting pop away? The prison sentence is going to
Make the officer leave with two ki's out the evidence room

[C-Rayz Walz - Prison Inmate]
Out the evidence room (*Said with Loucipher*)
Went my fame, truck, boat or plane, they watching you
You think you got work? They copping too
We control blocks, they lock countries
Ya own companies, we had nice cars and sneaker money
Now there's players out there, talking 'bout the holding
With bugs in they house like they down South with windows open
Your dough ain't long, you wrong, you take shorts and (?)
Feds will be up in your mouth...like forks and spoons
So enjoy the rush, live plush off Coke bread
Soon you'll be in a cell with me, like Jenny Lopez
In school, I was a bully, now life is fully a joke
I keep a flow on a boat for Peruvian Coke
Players do favors for governers and tax makers
Fat Quakers smoke crack and sex acts with bad mayors
The walls got ears, you big mouths probably scared
Not prepared to do years like Javier

[Immortal Technique Speaking]
The story just told is an example of the path that
drugs take on their way to every neighborhood, in
every state of this country. It's a lot deeper than
the *censor* on your block. So when they point the
finger at you, brother men, this is what you've got to tell them:

[Wesley Snipes - from "New Jack City"]
I'm not guilty. YOU'RE the one that's guilty. The
lawmakers, the politicians, the Columbian drug lords,
all you who lobby against making drugs legal. Just
like you did with alcohol during the prohibition.
You're the one who's guilty. I mean, c'mon, let's kick
the ballistics here: Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem.
Not one of us in here owns a poppy field. This thing
is bigger than (Immortal Technique). This is big
business. This is the American way.

[Tlicious]

See Caro Lyrics like that I understand completely, and if all rap lyrics made that much sense then I would be completely open to saying that "I like rap." But at this point in time when somebody asks me if I listen to rap I hesitate to say yes because then they might assume that I like all of the shallow rap on MTV and other tv stations Etc., which is what more than half of the U.S. is recognizing as the best rap out there, and it makes me sick because there is so much more to the hip hop life style than hot cars, bitches, ice, and mansions. The newest rappers of today have given rap a materialistic look that i'm not comfortable associating with, so until this new rap pop junk tears it's self apart i'm just gunna listen to older rap that makes sense to me and not represent anything that could be interpreted as if it is linked to this new era of rap.

[The Firefly]

look people face it. All music except for all sub-genres of Heavy Metal (exclusing R'n'B) kicks ass and everything else is shit. Hip-Hop is shit. Funk is shit. Rap is shit. Pop is shit. Just look at the difference in lyrics.

Anal Cunt - You Are An Interior Decorator
From the album "I Like It When You Die"

faggot [x4]

you want to paint my walls pink,you want to give me a flowered sink
you put a statue of holly johnson in my hall and a poster of joe bonni on my wall

interior decorator [x2]

[repeat verse]

interior decorator [x2]

faggot [x4]

Anal Cunt - I Became A Counselor So I Could Tell Rape Victims They Asked For It
From the album "It Just Get Worse"

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A WOMAN
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD A CUNT
YOU DESERVED IT
CUZ YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT

D-U-M-B C-U-N-T

YOU DESERVED IT, YOU DESERVED IT, YOU DESERVED IT YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT
YOU DESERVED IT, YOU DESERVED IT, YOU DESERVED IT YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT

YOU SHOULD'VE WORN A CHASTITY BELT
YOU SHOULD'VE VOLUNTEERED TO FUCK HIM
YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN UGLY
I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A WOMAN

D-U-M-B C-U-N-T

YOU DESERVED IT YOU DESERVED IT YOU DESERVED IT YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT
YOU DESERVED IT YOU DESERVED IT YOU DESERVED IT YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT

see....Anal Cunt rules...now lets look at say...Usher

"Call Me A Mack"

Yo!
What's sup?
Hey!
My name is Usher,
You can trust there ain't
No punks in this house,
And if U really wanna know what my name is
Just Call Me A Mack
Word,
Right!
Just call me the mack
Anytime baby,
Cause I ain't confused

[Usher singing]

I maybe kind of young
But I got a
Whole lot on manly in me
So I'm afraid
That I can't complain (Huh, ha!)
I don't mind
If U wanna come by my crib
And chill,
But just be sure
That U call me first
Because the last girl that tried
To just be droppin' on by (Oh, no)
Learned how to play a player
And do U know why,
Because the mack

[Hook]

Just Call Me A Mack
Cause I got it like that
U gotta play by the rules
Or I'll get back with U
It's a well known fact
That I got it like that
U gotta play by the rules
Just Call Me A Mack

Now, baby I ain't dumb
And all those silly
Games that U play
I see right through
So let me kick it to yah (To yah!)
I don't have a lot of girls,
But I gotta know
I'll get the respect that I give
That's just the way I live
Because the last girl
I had was moving
Things too fast (Slow down)
She tried to pull a fooler
And do U know
What had happened

[Hook (twice)]

[Usher's Rap]

The mack is right here
And yes I care as much
Just giving a little love
It's spreading everywhere
U see it's
Here
Here
And here
Catch a feeling
I'm having a little trouble
I know my girl will always
Hit it
Pit it
Like an orange
Cause it looks
Like numbness
My lovin' and
Hugin'
And bitterness
My peeps keep
Pumpin'
Humpin'
On stage
I'm engaged
And yes
The truth is it
U see an
Ugly woman
U better change

[Usher singing]

Oh, yes
Like Usher's my name
I can't go changing
My ways (Oh, no)
As long as I'm chillin'
Then baby
U can call me the mack


Look! Its crap! No one cares about your bitch or whatever you faggot ass is singing about!

[Caro]

That's terrible crap. I don't understand how these people make money.

[Tlicious]

That's terrible crap. I don't understand how these people make money.

See that's exactly what i'm saying All this new shit that is at the top of the music charts sucks!

[Midnight Toker]

look people face it. All music except for all sub-genres of Heavy Metal (exclusing R'n'B) kicks ass and everything else is shit. Hip-Hop is shit. Funk is shit. Rap is shit. Pop is shit. Just look at the difference in lyrics.

Anal Cunt - You Are An Interior Decorator
From the album "I Like It When You Die"

faggot [x4]

you want to paint my walls pink,you want to give me a flowered sink
you put a statue of holly johnson in my hall and a poster of joe bonni on my wall

interior decorator [x2]

[repeat verse]

interior decorator [x2]

faggot [x4]

Anal Cunt - I Became A Counselor So I Could Tell Rape Victims They Asked For It
From the album "It Just Get Worse"

YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN A WOMAN
YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE HAD A CUNT
YOU DESERVED IT
CUZ YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT

D-U-M-B C-U-N-T

YOU DESERVED IT, YOU DESERVED IT, YOU DESERVED IT YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT
YOU DESERVED IT, YOU DESERVED IT, YOU DESERVED IT YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT

YOU SHOULD'VE WORN A CHASTITY BELT
YOU SHOULD'VE VOLUNTEERED TO FUCK HIM
YOU SHOULD'VE BEEN UGLY
I HATE YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE A WOMAN

D-U-M-B C-U-N-T

YOU DESERVED IT YOU DESERVED IT YOU DESERVED IT YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT
YOU DESERVED IT YOU DESERVED IT YOU DESERVED IT YOU'RE A DUMB CUNT

see....Anal Cunt rules...

I just wrote out a big long thing about how stupid your comments here are, but a i pressed a button and it went somewhere, so here's the brief version.

How can you possibly claim that these should even be callled lyrics, let alone good lyrics. It sound like it was written by a child who has just learnt to swear so feels to use at least two in every sentence to piss off it's parents. How you can label hip-hop and rap artists such as snoop dogg, slug etc ''shit'' (which seems to be your favourite words what appears to be a very limited volcabulary) and talk about this repetetive bullshit as though it was the greatest thing since sliced bread is far beyond me. I myself like rock,hip hop and pretty much anything else if it sounds good, but that crock of shit, my friend, is not even music.

[GodHand Kronix]

I think the best way to get through to someone who hates "rap music" is to hit them with some heavy beats with political lyrics and intricate melodies. If you could listen to some of the shit I listen to, I don't see how you could not groove. Listen to this song, it's called Cocaine Revolution by Immortal Technique.

[Intro: from the film "Scarface"]
Host: I've heard whispers about the financial support
your government receives from the drug industry.

Guest: Well, the irony of this, of course, is that
this money, which is in the billions, is coming from
your country. You see, you are the major purchaser of
our national product, which is of course cocaine.

Host: On one hand, you're saying the United States
government is spending millions of dollars to
eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the
same time, we are doing business with the very same
goverment that is flooding our streets with cocaine.

Guest: Mmm-hmm, si, si. Let me show you a few other
characters that are involved in this tragic comedy.

[Beat starts]

*Two Men Speak in Spanish*

[Immortal Technique - Worker]
I'm on the border of Bolivia, working for pennies
Treated like a slave, the coca fields have to be ready
The spirit of my people is starving, broken and sweaty
Dreaming about revolution (REVOLUTION!) looking at my machete
But the workload is too heavy to rise up in arms
And if I ran away, I know they'd probably murder my moms
So I pray to "Heso Preisto" when I go to the mission
Process the cocaine, paced and play my position

[Pumpkinhead - Cocaine Field Boss]
Ok, Juan Valdez, just give me my product
Before we chop off ya hands for worker's misconduct
I got the power to shoot a copper, and not get charged
And it would be sad to see your family in front of a firing squad
So to feed your kids, I need these bricks
40 tons in total, let me test it, indeed I (*sniff*)
Shit, this is good, pass me a tissue
And don't worry about them, I paid off the officials

[Diabolic - Peruvian Leader]
Yo, it don't come as a challenge, I'm the son of some of the foulest
Elected by my people...the only one on the ballot
Born and bred to consult with feds, I laugh at fate
And assassinate my predecessor to have his place
In a third-world fashion state, lock the nation
With 90% of the wealth in 10% of the population
The Central Intelligence Agency takes weight faithfully
The finest type of China white and cocaine you'll see

[Tonedeff - American Drug Distributor]
Honey I'm home, nevermind why our bank account's suddenly grown
It's funny, we're so out of this debt from this money we owe
Woulda ya...mind if I told you I had two governments overthrown
To keep our son enrolled in a private school, and to keep ya tummy swollen
C'mon, our fuckin' home was built on the foundation of bloody throats
The hungry stolen of they souls, of course this country's runnin' coke
I took a stunted oath to hush the one's who know
But CIA conducts the flow of these young hustlers who lust for dough

[Poison Pen - Drug Dealer]
I don't work in the hood (Hit my connect)
Plus what's really good, they supply work for the hood
These dudes fucking crack me up, scrutinize like we inferior
Petrified when we meet in my area (calm down)
My dude's'll shoot until I say so, got the loot?
Give me the YAY YAY like Ice Cube, so don't play with my llello
We won't stop for you bastards
Must choose (?), chop it and bag it

[Loucipher - Undercover Police Officer]
Taking pictures and tapping phones
Debating snitches and cracking codes
Past a couple, blast the fo',
Want any hustler stacking dough with probably crack the blow
And my overtime is where your taxes go
I gain your trust
Get you to hand weight to us because we paid up front
On the low with cameras taping ya
Getting pop away? The prison sentence is going to
Make the officer leave with two ki's out the evidence room

[C-Rayz Walz - Prison Inmate]
Out the evidence room (*Said with Loucipher*)
Went my fame, truck, boat or plane, they watching you
You think you got work? They copping too
We control blocks, they lock countries
Ya own companies, we had nice cars and sneaker money
Now there's players out there, talking 'bout the holding
With bugs in they house like they down South with windows open
Your dough ain't long, you wrong, you take shorts and (?)
Feds will be up in your mouth...like forks and spoons
So enjoy the rush, live plush off Coke bread
Soon you'll be in a cell with me, like Jenny Lopez
In school, I was a bully, now life is fully a joke
I keep a flow on a boat for Peruvian Coke
Players do favors for governers and tax makers
Fat Quakers smoke crack and sex acts with bad mayors
The walls got ears, you big mouths probably scared
Not prepared to do years like Javier

[Immortal Technique Speaking]
The story just told is an example of the path that
drugs take on their way to every neighborhood, in
every state of this country. It's a lot deeper than
the *censor* on your block. So when they point the
finger at you, brother men, this is what you've got to tell them:

[Wesley Snipes - from "New Jack City"]
I'm not guilty. YOU'RE the one that's guilty. The
lawmakers, the politicians, the Columbian drug lords,
all you who lobby against making drugs legal. Just
like you did with alcohol during the prohibition.
You're the one who's guilty. I mean, c'mon, let's kick
the ballistics here: Ain't no Uzi's made in Harlem.
Not one of us in here owns a poppy field. This thing
is bigger than (Immortal Technique). This is big
business. This is the American way.

Peruvian Cocaine rocks my socks.

[Ziggy]

Aite dude im gonna agree with most of you that rap music NOW DAYS sucks but if u listen to old school stuff like run dmc or rev run thats good rap music, this 50 cent shit is balls all bout money cash hoes n gats, wtf is that shit, the only mainstream dude i still listen to now is ludacris hes hilarious, oh and if u want some good ones listen to the mos def ft talib kweli album called blackstar, dude they kill it there one of my favorite duo's of all time

[Dr. Greenthumb]

wow you shouldnt bring back a dead post to make such a weak comment. rap is still very much alive today you just have to find artists that dont perform on MTV. Bands like Cannibal Ox, NonPhixion, Atmosphere bring whole new elements that werent in rap before. Along with the deep messages within certain lyrics as Caro showed with Immortal Technique, with his music he changes the way people think and view the world. Listen to any of his Revolutionary albums and you can here rap on politics like its never been done before.

Rap is very much alive and in my opinion alot better than it has been in the past.