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Value 4 money equipment

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:36 pm
by weedguru_asmodeus
ok - I wanna start growing some luscious buds, but I aint too hot on the equipment side of things. For example,I've read a few guides on lights, but they all seem to be aimed at the experienced grower who knows about light spectrums etc.

So what I'm after is some help in choosing some cheap but quality equipment that will cover the entire growing cycle - well quite a few of these to be honest.

My thoughts on what I need:

lighting - cheap to buy & run, but high quality output.
fan - quiet & cheap
fertiliser
soil
pots - best size & shape?
seeds - what variety would you recommend for ease of growth with low smell and potent results.
foil - not much to say here.
Analysis tools - soil acidity measure?, temperature measure? - what could be useful?

Any help or pointers to decent info is much appreciated

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 8:58 pm
by Weedguru Higher
I'll get back to that ques tonite....gotta run now

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 9:30 pm
by Funk Doctor
You can get soil pH test kits in almost any gardening store, as well as good fertilizer.

If you're only growing a few plants, get yourself one or two of those minuature fans that you can put in your car. They don't cost much, and they're quiet as a mouse.

I'll mail my cousin (he grows his own) and see what he's using.

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2003 11:00 pm
by JusJoe
lighting - Flourescent = cheap to buy & run
fan - computer fans are about $8-16 (can you hear your computer fan while your online???)
fertiliser- miracle grow has like 16-30-10 for only about 2 bux
soil - any good ph level multipurpose soil will do
pots - start off with cups until you can see roots then transplant to a 1gal+ pot (the larger the pot the larger the plant)
seeds - i recommend Northern lights for sure!! NL's are tha easiest to grow and they have a very low smell and it has a THC% of something around 16%+

hope this helps

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 1:29 am
by Weedguru Higher
Ah cool...someone already summed that up pretty well for me......

THe only thing is the fluros....personally I wouldn;t use them, but it doesn't make them bad or anything........At first I choose to invest in a 400 watt hps, and spend less on other shit. The light is one of the key factors in growing and the stronger it is the better it is. Plants gro much better that way.....THey need all the light they can get...the plant'll grow faster and taller which means more weed...though I'm sure you can do decent stuff with fluoros too...just try to get the most possible wattage.

Wait, thats wrong....I do use fluros, but only when I'm growing clippings...Never have grown from seeds myself. After the roots of the clippings have spruted they go under the HPS.

Fertilizers...brands vary where you live. Potassium, Phosphorus and Nitrogenis what you need.....those numbers on fertzs like 16-30-10 are just that...check the order though. You need to change the kinds and different stages in the grow. Nitrogen helps the plant get stronger, phosphorus is good at the seedling and flowering stages but is less important dur\ing the vegetative state. I cant remeber the corect order of the numbers. So during veg state you want the number for phosphorus to be higher..........but its not THAT important either....you can learn it later from trial and error and stuff. A plant will be healthier from no or little fertza rathering than over-fertilizing, so If you're not sure go easy. Oh and always dilute the fertzs in water, dont just apply them to the soil and pour water over.

Yes...Norhtern Light is the way too go.

Pots they're the cheapest thing...go to Walmart or something and buy normal flowering pots. Just make sure that its big enough for the roots to grow freely..if the roots get to bunnched up and tangled the plant will have a hard time growing-it can even stop growing.

Oh...how many plnats are ou growing and where? Closet, room?

Make sure you put down some kind of plastic on the floor casue leaks and spills are unevitable

Also get a claender or note pad to chart your progress and stuff. Always mark down the dates you water and fertz them and the start date, the light cycle changes....if you dont you'll find yourself forgetting and adding to much or too little of something.

Not a bad idea to have some kind of reflective stuff on your walls. Just plain white walls in a room will do the trick actually......or if its in a closet or soemthing, theres this plastic that you can get in hyrdo shops that is white on oneside and black on the other side. The black side is used to blank out windows if thers any...you dont want the neighbours noticing the unually strong lights running 24 hrs....

Oh and the cheapest thing, yet most important thing you need is TLC..tkae care of them, check em everyday and stuff...be nice to them and in a few months they should be real nice to you!!

Ya and another must is a timer. One of those timers that you can set to turn your lights on or off automatically. THey are cheap, maybe 10 bucks. Cause you'll find it real annoying having to remember to turn on or off your lights...the cycles have to be consistent. You cant do like 18 hours on one day, then 17 the next, then oops 22 after that.....good wat to screw them up.

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2003 8:57 pm
by weedguru_asmodeus
tar guys,

well - im gonna grow in my attic - fairly low roof, about 5 foot 7 inch at its highest - 1 small window easy to block light.

how much are the 400 watt hps? - im on a tight budget here!

how big a pot would you recommend? - dont know how many plants - I have a lot of floor space but not gonna sell- only for me and my mates to enjoy.

how would you power the fans? - are there power converters available for these fans? - would you run them only when the lights are on so they get a good nights sleep?

where would you buy the lights from? - any recommendations for a neat ballest - so i can control the height?

whats the best way to germinate - in toilet paper?

is there anything i havent thought about?

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2003 12:13 am
by Weedguru Higher
I've never grown straight from seeds so I can't help you much on that matter.

Pot size - at first use something similar in size to a styrofoam cup. It's best to transplant only once, so the next pot should be big. Not sure how many litres mine are but they are about 10-12 inches in circumference and 1 ft deep or so...

This is the exact type of soil I use...http://www.premierhort.com/website/prod ... proff.html


The fans are powered simply by electricity...ordinary household fans will do the trick.

For adjusting the height I did this.....Screwed 2 large hooks in the ceiling, then attached a chain to the light...it has to be a chain with links big enough to go on the hooks...then you just adjust the height by using different links... [url]http://www.blunt.co.uk/cat/light ... l?overture THis is a pretty good link about Hps prices are in pounds company in UK