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*Sigh* Gun Control In America
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:31 am
by (weedguru)scarf
So with the recent events at Virginia Tech
I would like to know what people think about
America's Gun Control
It's your right to have guns.... according to the constitution
but is it an outdated right?
are you too late to do anything about it?
should there be a nation wide move to make it harder
to attain weapons?
or/and a government buy-back scheme put in place to try and reduce
the number of guns in circulation?
i would like to hear people's opinions
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 7:44 am
by Hitom
Im not an american, but ill chip in my comments anyway ;p
I think every person should have a right to own a gun.
You never know when that meth addict in the street is gonna decide to cut you for a few dollars so he can get high.
A nation wide move? no no no.
That wont work, just look at how the war on drugs is doing.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 8:44 am
by WeedGuru_Flow
^Hitom that is the dumbest answer anyone could give to that.
"It's my god given right to have a gun' is something Americans (especially those NRA faggots) like to say about this (no not every single one of them, but the vast majority probably will)
This is a law that dates back to the 'Wild West' era, so yes it is a very fucking outdated law!
The pompousness of having the right to carry a gun is beyond my understanding, why the hell does America still have this 'gun culture' ??????
It doesn't do any good, thousands of people get shot dead every single year, why? Cause it's our god given right to carry guns around and unload them when we think something wrong was done to us, fuck that shit.
Down here in Europe we have very strict laws when it comes to firearms, and look,it's all going pretty smooth right? You don't need a friggin' gun to feel safe, the reason people don't feel safe are guns in the first place, how ironic!
For me all that gun shit is just macho american retardedness, sorry if I offended any of the Americans on these here boards but I honestly couldn't care less, anybody that's gonna flame me just cause i think America and their gunlaws are a messed up thing is one of those troglodyte gunwielders and should be shot with his/her own gun.
There!

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:41 am
by Hitom
Yeah, i see what your saying Flow, but out-lawing guns wont fix the problem, it will just create a black market for guns. (a bigger one then there allready is)
I dont own a gun myself, neither do i know if i ever will, but if i someday get into some serious trouble with the wrong kind of people, im glad to know i could get one easy.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:14 pm
by WeedGuru_Flow
Hitom wrote:Yeah, i see what your saying Flow, but out-lawing guns wont fix the problem, it will just create a black market for guns. (a bigger one then there allready is)
I dont own a gun myself, neither do i know if i ever will, but if i someday get into some serious trouble with the wrong kind of people, im glad to know i could get one easy.
Mm, but hten again you'll probably buy that gun from someone dodgy right? rElse its gotta be registered, and if you end up actually killing someone you'll hang for it...
guns are crap, they shouldn't ever have been invented, spears are way cooler :p
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:23 pm
by Ziggy
Hitom wrote:I think every person should have a right to own a gun.
You never know when that meth addict in the street is gonna decide to cut you for a few dollars so he can get high.
You cant be serious, your talking about walking around with a gun in the off chance you run into somebody who wants to kill you in public for no real reason. And i dont think you can put the war on drugs in the same boat as banning firearms. I just think drugs and guns are too different.
I think harsher gun laws would work to deter some of the bozoes out there who carry around a gun for no real reason, but doing so because they want to intimidate/kill somebody who acts irrationally towards them. but it will never get rid of the people who pose a real threat, like the VT kid who probably wasnt all there upstairs. Even if you make it harder to legally buy a gun, "where theirs a will, theres a way" and people who want it bad enough to get revenge or whatever will find one. plus, firearms are much too easy to conceal (the handguns at least) and theres no way people are going to be onboard with metal detectors at the entrance to every building just to control firearms.
So i think making it harder to legally buy a gun and harsher penelties for those who illegally own one is good and will stop some ppl from doing so, but not the people who actually pose a real threat. the black market is too powerful
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 12:26 pm
by Hitom
Was just an example, kinda bad one i guess >.<
But hey, for some people, guns are a sport, would kinda be unfair to them dont you think? ;p
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:28 pm
by Rory
Guns are wicked, I own 2. (for hunting, not for shooting people)
Here in Canada we have waaaaaay more guns than the US, and waaaay less murders per year. So really, the guns aren't the problem, Americans are the problem.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:21 pm
by asswipe
Americans = Problem
Guns = Dangerous
add those together and you get a pretty stupid policy. imo
what you need guns for anyway? its stupid, they don't have any good purpose.
I must agree with flow's first post, and add that america is already fucked. Allowing them to keep guns will change nothing to the thousands of people suffering from its negative effects, Take them away and it'll create a black market just like Hitom said. But I do believe it would help, I mean if its harder to get, people will only get one if they'd really need (like policemen, or gangsters that think they need one) anyway that doesn;t solve the problem. But it does erase the stupid senseless and accedent kills that happen alot by dumb people that can just buy one at the local wall-mart. Just happens too much
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:39 pm
by Jay212
I heard something about canada changing their laws about buying guns. I was told in the future they were going to make you talk to a psychologist first, in order to buy a gun or get your license. not sure which one, but i think it's a pretty good idea.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:06 pm
by weedguru+chrisisonfire
Flow wrote:^Hitom that is the dumbest answer anyone could give to that.
"It's my god given right to have a gun' is something Americans (especially those NRA faggots) like to say about this (no not every single one of them, but the vast majority probably will)
This is a law that dates back to the 'Wild West' era, so yes it is a very fucking outdated law!
The pompousness of having the right to carry a gun is beyond my understanding, why the hell does America still have this 'gun culture' ??????
It doesn't do any good, thousands of people get shot dead every single year, why? Cause it's our god given right to carry guns around and unload them when we think something wrong was done to us, fuck that shit.
Down here in Europe we have very strict laws when it comes to firearms, and look,it's all going pretty smooth right? You don't need a friggin' gun to feel safe, the reason people don't feel safe are guns in the first place, how ironic!
For me all that gun shit is just macho american retardedness, sorry if I offended any of the Americans on these here boards but I honestly couldn't care less, anybody that's gonna flame me just cause i think America and their gunlaws are a messed up thing is one of those troglodyte gunwielders and should be shot with his/her own gun.
There!

Smoke on Flow, took the words right out of my mouth!

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:10 pm
by Jay212
Lol. I don't know any americans who hunt, but i know quite a bit of americans with guns. funny how that works..
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:15 pm
by bobdole
Do you guys think there's anything wrong with having guns for hunting? If the goverment ever tried to take guns away from american citizens I know many people that would not let that happen. There generally asshole rednecks but none the less your not getting their guns with out a fight. I have a gun my self and dont like the idea of "The Man" telling me if I can have it or not.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:21 pm
by Jay212
I have no problem with guns, or people with guns. It's these nutjob "revolutionaries" that piss me right the fuck off.
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:49 pm
by Ziggy
Rory wrote:Guns are wicked, I own 2. (for hunting, not for shooting people)
Do much hunting in Toronto lol