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My understanding is tat rap music is music concentrated on lyrics, as opposed 2 pop which is focused on catchy choruses, as opposed 2 baroque which is the original dance music! It can b repetitiv & annoying but rap artists can have a lot 2say. Listen to "Changes" by Tupac, tat is a beautiful song & so sad 2. But if ther talkin about stuf that some ppl think is OTT, its probly a reflection of the world as they see/experience it.

"This song is dedicated to all the happy people, who have real nice lives, and have no idea what it's like to be broke as fuck" - Eminem, Rock Bottom

This is one of my favorite songs. Imagine the words spoken with emotion over a beat and a beautiful piano melody. It's a song about loss and pain. It's called "The River" by Atmosphere.

It was a purple purple sky and an orange orange moon
And everyone was whistling the same damn tune
...Except Bryan, Bryan stared out across the field
And watched the horizon blossom over the copper fields
Of the edge of the world, the one they're all afraid to walk
Rational for why they’re so high on the small talk
But Bryan knows where the crows all go
To find the ifs and the ands and the buts and alsos

If I could run through the woods and speed like the light
I’d find the answers to why and be back by tonight
If I could fly through the fog and look at this rock
I’d figure out how to keep hell off of my block
But as it stands I stay content
Trying to be the magic man and pay my rent
And wishin that Bryan would turn me on
To the secrets he sought
While we keep burnin the dawn just to keep the day hot

If I could ask you one question I’d ask where you went
You could teach me a lesson every time I got bent
But the alcohol don’t make me forget about it all
Doesn’t matter the season the leaves can still fall
They slipped hidden messages within the cards that were dealt
I understand myself and all the sorrow I felt
For as simple as I am how'd it get so complex?
Got me studying the margins and disregarding the text

I open the curtains and listen to the traffic go
But I still get nervous each time a piece passes go
The residue is thick and the memory fails
I still laugh because the path feels a lot like a trail

We used to be a couple of pimps walking the hallways with pride
Drunk or sober life was nothin short of a roller coaster ride
Trips to the clubs now lets go to the rythm
All we wanted out of life was what was given

And when you passed i wanted to take back the time we wasted
I’d trade all the buzzes in for one more conversation
We could sit in the shade and discuss the meaning of sacred
Cuz I cant see the garden no more just the aphids
But the wind still blows
And the plants still grow
And I wish your name was on the guest list at my shows
I gotta believe that you can see me run out of my freedom
Cuz you got to meet the sun before you got to meet my son

And when I see lightning feels like my buzz heightening
Every time I feel the sun I can smell the love
And when I smell the air I can hear a child trying
But every time I hear a river I think the mother is crying...


... you just can't make the argument that a song like this isn't worthwhile.

People misjudge hip-hop as a genre of music that requires little to no talent because of the way it is portrayed in the mainstream, in which every rapper makes every song about a club or a hotel party or pimpin' them ho's. But the truth is, that's not what hip-hop is about. The true greats spit about topics that can be anywhere from rejoicing and ecstatic to dark, gloomy, and even unbearably film-noir-esque. And yes, there is instrumental talent in hip-hop, believe it or not, very often a song will include bass lines and guitar samples, and sometimes live drummers are called upon. And also, djing does require talent. I tried it for a little while, and it's not easy. Hip-hop artists can be just as talented in every aspect as rock artists, it's just a matter of what kind of music you prefer.

Preach!

I hate it when ppl say hiphop and/or rap is just guys talkin bout their dicks and "fuckin a hoe doggy style" lol... I've never met someone that has listened to real hiphop (common, res, blackalicious) and not liked it, or at least appreciate the skill in it.

Weedguru Caro wrote: It was a purple purple sky and an orange orange moon
And everyone was whistling the same damn tune
...Except Bryan, Bryan stared out across the field
And watched the horizon blossom over the copper fields
Of the edge of the world, the one they're all afraid to walk
Rational for why they’re so high on the small talk
But Bryan knows where the crows all go
To find the ifs and the ands and the buts and alsos

If I could run through the woods and speed like the light
I’d find the answers to why and be back by tonight
If I could fly through the fog and look at this rock
I’d figure out how to keep hell off of my block
But as it stands I stay content
Trying to be the magic man and pay my rent
And wishin that Bryan would turn me on
To the secrets he sought
While we keep burnin the dawn just to keep the day hot

If I could ask you one question I’d ask where you went
You could teach me a lesson every time I got bent
But the alcohol don’t make me forget about it all
Doesn’t matter the season the leaves can still fall
They slipped hidden messages within the cards that were dealt
I understand myself and all the sorrow I felt
For as simple as I am how'd it get so complex?
Got me studying the margins and disregarding the text

I open the curtains and listen to the traffic go
But I still get nervous each time a piece passes go
The residue is thick and the memory fails
I still laugh because the path feels a lot like a trail

We used to be a couple of pimps walking the hallways with pride
Drunk or sober life was nothin short of a roller coaster ride
Trips to the clubs now lets go to the rythm
All we wanted out of life was what was given

And when you passed i wanted to take back the time we wasted
I’d trade all the buzzes in for one more conversation
We could sit in the shade and discuss the meaning of sacred
Cuz I cant see the garden no more just the aphids
But the wind still blows
And the plants still grow
And I wish your name was on the guest list at my shows
I gotta believe that you can see me run out of my freedom
Cuz you got to meet the sun before you got to meet my son

And when I see lightning feels like my buzz heightening
Every time I feel the sun I can smell the love
And when I smell the air I can hear a child trying
But every time I hear a river I think the mother is crying...


... you just can't make the argument that a song like this isn't worthwhile.

i can honestly say, that song Isnt worthwhile.

jus.me.n.my.pipe wrote:I hate it when ppl say hiphop and/or rap is just guys talkin bout their dicks and "fuckin a hoe doggy style" lol... I've never met someone that has listened to real hiphop (common, res, blackalicious) and not liked it, or at least appreciate the skill in it.

talkin` down a mic n speeding it up requreies umm... button pushin` skills ?

uh alright thats why rap was derived from jazz and funky beats n shit...
if you actually get passed the "MTV rap" then ur golden becuz if your on MTV ur a sellout.....plain and simple.....
if u listen to old school shit like eazy e, esham, 2pac of course.....
if u ever have listened to nebody flow before.. u know battling.... u'd by syked by the shit people can come up as fast as they can......

weedguru tom wrote:talkin` down a mic n speeding it up requreies umm... button pushin` skills ?

your a joke, you heard this once somewhere about someone who it most likely wasnt even True about and you cant let it go. if it did happen, it was a fag. rap isnt all like that shit, the rap you hear on.. tv, or on the radio aint even (mostly) the real shit. underground rappers are way better i think
Brotha lynch, X-raided, Celly Cell, Yukmouth, Cbo, ANDRE NICKATINA, Mac Mall, Mac Dre... etc etc and obviously some Tupac and Biggie. thats the good shit that I listen to . and its way better then any punk or rock crap.

why talk shit about a certain genre when it's as simple as just not listening to it to solve your problem of not liking it. rap must really offend you to have to talk so badly about it. why not do yourself a favor and stay away from it if you don't like it. that should solve your problem. i'm open to all genres of music and i find that i don't like a few.. i don't hear a couple shitty songs and say this whole genre sucks. that's just ignorant.

Mac Dre wrote:

weedguru tom wrote:talkin` down a mic n speeding it up requreies umm... button pushin` skills ?

your a joke, you heard this once somewhere about someone who it most likely wasnt even True about and you cant let it go. if it did happen, it was a fag. rap isnt all like that shit, the rap you hear on.. tv, or on the radio aint even (mostly) the real shit. underground rappers are way better i think
Brotha lynch, X-raided, Celly Cell, Yukmouth, Cbo, ANDRE NICKATINA, Mac Mall, Mac Dre... etc etc and obviously some Tupac and Biggie. thats the good shit that I listen to . and its way better then any punk or rock crap.

i was the one that said rap was speeded up before, and im sayin` it again now it is speeded up i saw a programme on mtv about it, one day you will grow up from rap haha just remember this

STFU tom, you got it all wrong

Like I, and many others, have said before, what you see on MTV is commercial bullshit, and I hate it as much as you do.

Ey fuck you WG Tom!
Mac Dre, Sickyle and Funk Doc are right, but you should recognise the fact that in every genre exists shit and excellence. For every shower of cunts like Blink 182 there's a Dead Kennedys, for every unintelligent, money grabbing 50 Cent there's a Talib Kweli.
YOU WILL NEVER hear a good hip-hop cut on the radio, and it's like dat.
Yo Tom, seriously guy, check out some KRS ONE, Mos Def, Blackalicious, and of course public Enemy/Chuck D/ Flavor Flav.
Michael Frante (Spearhead) once wrote: i WANNA ROCK WITH PUNKS BECAUSE i LOVE PUNK ROCK, i WANNA ROCK WIT HEADS BECAUSE I LOVE HIP-HOP.
Peace.

attitude problem comes to mined lol

Any song on the radio??

I hate 50 cent and all those BS bastards, only "famous" rapper I really like is Jay-Z and not the change clothes bullshit, I mean reasonable doubt, the blueprint, hard knock life etc.