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Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:57 pm
by angel'sdrug
thats what the world would call a hallucination thats y cannabis (especially canabis oil) comes under hallucigens

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:57 pm
by Scratch
Tweedle, didn't colors use to get a little more vivid when you first started smoking?

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:57 pm
by WidespreadDead
angel'sdrug wrote:with nicotine its totaly different with skunk the dopemine makes u hallucinate, dopemine isnt released with nicotine it just lacks ur brain of air (like strangelling urself) - dopamine makes people hallucinate in other drugs too like ecstacy (but it also releases endorphines and the mixture makes u notice it more)
dopamine doesnt make you hallucinate. dopamine is a chemical that is released in your brain that just makes you feel really good and gives you that euphoria. what coke does is it just keeps dopamine spewing out and doesnt let it go back in it just stays in your body. i learned this in health class. im pretty sure its the same with mdma and i believe thats the reason people have such terrible come downs from those two drugs

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:00 am
by Scratch
I hallucinated from a lot of E combined with a shitload of weed. Not really hallucinated but had short closed-eye visuals

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:01 am
by tweedle
angel'sdrug wrote:thats what the world would call a hallucination thats y cannabis (especially canabis oil) comes under hallucigens
No it doesnt

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:02 am
by tweedle
Scratch wrote:Tweedle, didn't colors use to get a little more vivid when you first started smoking?
No not that I can remember

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:03 am
by WidespreadDead
cannibis is really a tweener. its classified as a hallucinogen, stimulant and probably a few other. it really varies from source to source. i declare it as a stimulant

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:03 am
by angel'sdrug
the way dopemine makes u feel more euthoric and happy is by altering ur perception of it thats y the more that is released the more u feel it - as for coke - the comedown isnt that bad because dopemine hasnt got that much of a comedown but endorphines do and mdma overfloods ur system with endorphines so as they start being expelled from ur system past the high peak u start coming down imagine everything uve loved being dragged away from u in a matter of hours (or minutes if u need to force urself to comedown due to overbuzzing - fuck i had to do it on my first drop horrible comedown)

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:05 am
by tweedle
Weed is a Stimulant; Psychedelic; Depressant not a hallucinogen

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:05 am
by angel'sdrug
cannabis is classified under hallucigen (mild) i dont think its a stimulant tho due it it slowing ur brain down i think its a deppresant-hallucigen

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:06 am
by WidespreadDead
tweedle wrote:Weed is a Stimulant; Psychedelic; Depressant not a hallucinogen
yeah thats it but the point is theres no clear cut catagory for it

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:07 am
by angel'sdrug
every psychedelic are hallucigens thats how they work

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:07 am
by tweedle
http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis.shtml

Erowid has never let me down in the past, if you can show me some proof that it is a hallucigen then fair enough but until them its not and ive never heard of it as

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:07 am
by WidespreadDead
angel'sdrug wrote:the way dopemine makes u feel more euthoric and happy is by altering ur perception of it thats y the more that is released the more u feel it - as for coke - the comedown isnt that bad because dopemine hasnt got that much of a comedown but endorphines do and mdma overfloods ur system with endorphines so as they start being expelled from ur system past the high peak u start coming down imagine everything uve loved being dragged away from u in a matter of hours (or minutes if u need to force urself to comedown due to overbuzzing - fuck i had to do it on my first drop horrible comedown)
that may be true but i doubt it. and i know that dopamine does not make you hallucinate people would hallucinate all the time not on drugs. you dont need to be on drugs for dopamine to be released

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 12:15 am
by angel'sdrug
erowid vault
effect
under positive - increased awareness of senses. (eating, drinking, smell)
under neutral - change in vision such as sharpened colors or lights

in basics section
under chemistry
The active ingredients in cannabis are called cannabinoids. There are many cannabinoids synthesized by the plant including tetrahydrocannabinol, cannabinol, cannabidiol, cannabinolidic acid, cannabigerol, and cannabichromene. Delta-9-tetrahydrocannabinol is thought to be responsible for most of the psychoactive effects of cannabis and is the active ingredient in synthetic thc pills such as marinol.

under the experience (in basics section)
The primary effects sought by those using cannabis recreationally are euphoria, relaxation, and changes in perception. Effects vary depending on dosage, with effects at low doses including a sense of well-being, mild enhancement of senses (smell, taste, hearing), subtle changes in thought and expression, talkativeness, giggling, increased appreciation of music, increased appetite, and mild closed-eye visuals. At higher doses, visuals may become more prominent, sense of time is altered, attention span and memory are frequently affected, and thought processes and mental perception may be significantly altered.