dreamworld

[Zen]

Dolphons have been recorded to kill sharks on rare occasions. BUt it's not a singular effort at all. The whole pod acts as basicaly a single function organ. They basically will attack near the surface by ramming sharks from the underbelly. A weak point on all fish and mammals to begin with, but to top it off the dolphins will actually ram the shark with so much force that it burts from the water, into the air and when it falls back down another dolphin will ram it as soon as it hits the water to send it flying back into the air. The dolphins repeat this until the shark is vitally no more.

It's my belief that everything is connected quite materially, assuming that even the soul and emotions etc. are a material "things", but being blinded by science and technology we have no way of, as wierd as this sounds, measuring or feeling these different radiations, auras, connections... going as far as earth ley lines and nexus where these energies congregate and multiply exponentially. I read that the scientist behind the invention of the convential lie detector (totally forget the proper name), on a whim one day hooked it up to one of his house plants to see if it would produce any reactions. It was completely silent, and then he got the idea to set one of the plants leaves on flame. It wasn't until he actually grabbed the lighter and made the conscious decision/thought to flick his bic towards the plant, but as soon as he did the lie detector spiked sharply, and when he noticed this and left behind the thoughts of burning his plant, the readins subsided back to bnormal. ANother test was conducted to this effect wher he grabbed 5 random test subjects and instructed one of them to burn one of two plants sitting beside eachother. Afterwards he got them each to enter the room individually. It wasn't until the actual arsonist stepped into the room, that the remaining plant gave off readings on the lie detector. It lead the scientist to believe that plants were very concious and capable of recieving thoughts and retaining memory. The ability of these plants to sense these different thoughts or identities could lead one to philosophy (used as a verb) that there are different fields that are prjected and recieved constantly across the world and most likely the universe and outer cosmos.

With that in hand it would make sense that when you dream you can project certain and different fields from your mind/soul that can interact with other fields in many different ways. It would certainly explain why people have that personal bubble/barrier feeling about them, and how it varies from person to person; how some people can so naturally pick up on others emotions, mood, or thoughts even; why plants tend to grow better when you talk or sing to them, play them music, show them love care and respect. Many primitive societies, believe plants have spirits, and commune with these plants. For example in Amazonia, there is a brew created called Ayahuasca, a combination of the Ayahuazca caapi. vine (Vine of the Spirits/Dead) and one or two other plants which capture the essence of the vine (coincidentally DMT or dimethyltriptamine a chemical produced within the human brain) and allows the chemical to flow through the body for many many hours as opposed to the 10 or 15 minutes DMT usually lasts within the body before being broken down. Obviously there had been trial and error experiments but the fact is that the Natives there say that it was the plants that told them which organics to brwe together in their cauldron.

wow ok that was a lot of typing and I think my brain just decided to stop... uh.... But yeah... shit I hate it when my brain does this. I'll just let the words here marinate with everyone for now, I guess.

Peace~

[tweedle]

I have also heard that about the plants and the fire but that doesnt mean they have a "soul" or something. They are living things just like a dog, if you go to a dog with fire in your hand its going to run away and be scared

[Zen]

Yeah, but that would be with an open flame, and lots of things are visually frightened by flame. The plant he hooked up showed a reaction before he even lit the lighter. The reasction manifested as soon as the guy seriously THOUGHT about lighting the leaf on fire, even though the lighter was in his hands, he hadn't struck a flame yet when the readings spiked.

So that gives rise to belief that all living things have some form of awareness, and wether you call that awareness a soul or spirit or don't call it anything at all except that it's the fact that something is there. What would you call the ability to sense intentional thoughts from other lifeforms?

Peace~

[tweedle]

I heard that he said, Im going to burn you and they "cried" as to so speak on the detector. Not that he thought. I would have to see a source to believe that

[Zen]

Huh interesting. I'll try and find where I read it.

Edit: Alright, even though none of these were the original page I read, these pages all deal with the "Backster Effect" identified by Dr. Backster the inventor of the POLYGRAPH lie detector (yay I found the name). heh I had the description a little wrong before it turns out that he had matches not a lighter, but the plants chaotic reaction readings only occured for the duration that Backster was thinking of burning the plant.

The first site below this line I just threw in cause I thought it had an interesting title "Telepathic Plants" I'm still reading through it hehe


http://www.paghat.com/telepathic.html

http://english.epochtimes.com/news/5-4-22/28064.html

http://skepdic.com/plants.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0303/p01s03-usgn.html

Peace~

[Bonglovingirl]

[quote="weedguru_animal"]good dolphins and bad dolphins, hahah, i dont see the joke, its an ovious and correct point. In every society there are good and bad, not just through experince of life or brain defects, but just a good or bad natuyre ;like people got.


It just struck me as funny at the time....to think of good vs bad dolphins, I didn't mean any offense.

[weedguru_animal]

hey thats okay bong, sorry if i gave you the impression that offemnce had been taken!

to add to the discussion>>

i remeber reading in the indepednt about this series of experiments some scientists did. they had a random group opeople made up both sexes and various ages and races.

they sat these people down in front of a big screen.cthey monitored their blood flow, heart rate, brain actviity, pulse, lots of stuff. then they showed 50 images where a certian number were horrific images and the rest were happy images.

anyway a clear pattern emerged that the mind and body reacted to the horrible images BEFORE they appeared om the screen. so in essence foresight was kinda proved..
the body and mind sense whats coming before needing to see it, we can feel stuff on so many diffrent levels that we dont understand entirely..