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It's about god-damned time to take these fuckers out. :D :D :D

If Bush could hear Americans saying those words he would be rubbing his hands with glee, happy in the knowledge that his slaves were as demonically narrow minded and fervent in support of yet more morally illogical War as appears only in his wildest dreams. Thank fuck that there remains at least a steady if small element of American society which has more sense and less arrogance.

The 1000 Lebanese civilians ruthlessly eliminated by the IDF in the brief but bloody War fought between Israel and Hezbollah last year, which if you can recall was sparked by two Israeli soldiers taken hostage by Hezbollah forces, were killed with American weapons. And in that case, every American contributed to the carnage, because you folks happily donate a chunk of your taxes, a billion$ or so???, annually to military aid for Israel. What the US doesn't give in terms of weapons and munitions(or are they the same thing!?) as a ridiculously hypocritical regular freebie towards helping the Middle Eastern Peace Process, they sell them at a discount price...

How the hell can anybody be so incurably naive to cheerfully and patriotically gulp down spoonful after spoonful of carefully designed and dispersed Government disinformation and bullshit???Is there a recessive gene which is dominant in certain groups of people which refuses to morally criminalize those that Lead us with an iron fist???

Bush and Blair told the world we must get Bin Laden, so the two Powers embarked on their neo-imperialist crusade into Afghanistan. Not long after that excursion which continues to this day to make life for the average Afghanistani precarious and limited, we were told that Hussein, despite the words and advice of the very inspectors we charged with making sure the Iraqi dictator was behaving himself, actually was readying plans to implement a WMD programme which could hit their targets (London or New York as two prime candidates) within 45 minutes. That was the apparent reason for going to war in Iraq.

Now, a few years after that initial US/Brit led invasion into Iraq, the world can only grimace as the body count relentlessly worsens and the rivers of Baghdad run putrid with blood and guts of dissected victims of a horrific civil war. That Allied move to spread democracy, like the War in Afghanistan, has been a complete disaster for everyone but war profiteers. It is just a real fucking shame that one of the most dangerous and dim witted of these profiteers is and has been for too dam long, President and leader of the most powerful and stupid country of The West, the US.

Two wars. Neither of which has been 'won' in any way imaginable. Thousands of innocent people dead, many of which would now still be living had it not been for those impossible to find, but very easy to talk about, Weapons of Mass Destruction.

How many Wars have Iran engaged in over the same period?? None.

There is far more reason to distrust the Bush Administration than to believe a word any of their number utters through mechanical teeth. That has been proved, beyond any doubt, to every able minded human with access to adequate news resources.

If anyone is basing their support for a US led attack on Iran on the infamous ‘wiped off the map’ comment made by the Iranian President, please see here>>>
http://www.weedguru.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=19782
Because the speech in question which gave forth the phrase was intentionally altered before getting distributed across the global media machine…

Immovable Chinese and Russian obstacles prevent any UN sanctions of War against Iran. Recent history shows that the US and UK have no respect for the UN. So that East Asian blockade is hardly likely to prove a hindrance if War is the Washington goal. But on this one, unlike the last two, the UK will not be able to contribute more than political support. That would be political suicide for ay government in the current climate here.

If the US does decide to attack Iran it will have major repercussions for not just the region, but potentially the world as a whole. The nuclear race will escalate and the safety of Life on this planet will be jeopardized further towards Apocalypse.

As with Afghanistan and as with Iraq, I suspect that Oil is a key factor in any invasion plans because Iran has one of the largest oil reserves known to man. However that kind of procurement operation would need more than a few military strikes on carefully selected targets; it would require a full-on invasion force of naval, land and aerial squadrons combined. Which is a different scenario to the main possibilities I have read about thus far, so perhaps it is less than likely but still possible... But Iran does have the capacity and will to not only defend itself but also to attack Israel, which is basically the same as attacking the US itself. An eye for an eye. Old but natural wisdom still adopted today by those who refuse to be beaten down to a pulp without giving anything back in return.

The Teutonic hick mentality of the American psyche is dangerously dominant.
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and again


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"teutonic hick mentality"

what in gods name does that even mean? :shock:
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um...I think it means..

German....awkwardly simple...mindset?

I don't know if Teutonic was the right term..
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trailer trash vermin blood of germanic descent...Not so much a theory, more of a fact. Which isn't to imply that I generalize all Americanos in that group. Not at all. Several of my favourite humans of all time are americans. One of them even, of german descent, but of a different german descent that the trailer trash vermin blood I was referring to in the post above.
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Instead of making a new thread, heres an article i found:

Iran’s president wants to defend nuclear program before U.N Security Council

TEHRAN, Iran -- President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad wants to take his case for pursuing nuclear power before the UN Security Council, the government said Sunday, as the world body debates new sanctions on the Islamic country for its refusal to suspend uranium enrichment.

Iran has rejected UN demands that it halt enrichment, insisting its nuclear program is peaceful and aimed at producing energy. The U.S. and its European allies are concerned its real aim is to produce nuclear weapons.

“The president of the Islamic Republic of Iran intends to attend a UN Security Council meeting to be held on Iran’s nuclear case in order to defend the rights of the Iranian nation in exploiting peaceful nuclear energy,” state TV quoted government spokesman Gholam Hossein Elham as saying.

The report did not say when Ahmadinejad wanted to appear before the 15-member council, which would have to approve his request after closed consultations.

South Africa’s UN Ambassador Dumisani Kumalo, whose country holds the rotating Security Council presidency, said Ahmadinejad had not made a formal request, but if he did, “it would be very difficult to deny him that opportunity.”

Kumalo said he would “be open to consulting” with the other council members on scheduling Ahmadinejad’s appearance. “I would be surprised if they said they don’t want to hear him,” he told The Associated Press.

The U.S. mission to the UN declined to comment on Ahmadinejad’s possible appearance.

In December, the Security Council imposed limited sanctions against Iran for its refusal to freeze uranium enrichment, which can be used both to produce nuclear fuel and build an atomic bomb. The council is now considering additional sanctions, including a travel ban, an arms embargo, trade restrictions and an expanded list of people and companies subject to an asset freeze.

The U.S. and Russia had expressed optimism that a draft resolution could be voted on this week. But Ahmadinejad’s appearance could delay those efforts - already complicated by differences between the council’s five permanent members over how tough the sanctions should be.

Ambassadors from the five permanent council members, plus Germany, were to meet Sunday evening to try to resolve their differences. It will be their fifth such talks in a week.

Among the proposed penalties would be asset freezes against companies controlled by Iran’s Revolutionary Guards, an elite corps that oversees vital Iranian interests, including oil and natural gas installations and the country’s missile arsenal.

Russia has raised concerns that mentioning the Revolutionary Guards would amount to censuring the entire institution. However, a council diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity because the talks were closed, said the sanctions would probably not target the Revolutionary Guards as a whole, but single out individual members and companies.

China, meanwhile, has resisted proposed cutbacks on loan guarantees for companies doing business in Iran, a measure strongly supported by the United States.

There has been less friction over a proposal to ban Iran from exporting arms, although China wants the banned weapons to be specifically defined.

Last week, the International Atomic Energy Agency - the UN nuclear watchdog - suspended nearly two dozen nuclear aid programs to Iran as part of the UN sanctions imposed in December.

Those sanctions - milder than the U.S. wanted - commit all UN member countries to stop supplying Iran with materials and technology that could contribute to its nuclear and missile programs and to freeze assets of 10 key Iranian companies and 12 individuals related to those programs.

Also Sunday, Iran had stern words for Russia over delays in a shipment of fuel for its Bushehr nuclear plant in southern Iran.

Talks last week between Russia and Iran aimed at resolving a dispute over the plant ended in failure. Russia says Iran has paid only a fraction of the US$25 million it owes a month for construction work at Bushehr.

Iranian officials rejected Russia’s claims and have suggested Moscow is bowing to international pressure to take a tougher line on Iran.

“We hope the Russians won’t politicize (the fuel shipment),” said Iranian Foreign Ministry spokesman Mohammad Ali Hosseini. “This (shipment) should be done within the next two weeks. We expect the Russians to fulfill their commitments.”

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weedguru_animal wrote:How the hell can anybody be so incurably naive to cheerfully and patriotically gulp down spoonful after spoonful of carefully designed and dispersed Government disinformation and bullshit???
Welcome to the United States of America :(
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[quote="WhiteLie"][quote="weedguru_animal"]How the hell can anybody be so incurably naive to cheerfully and patriotically gulp down spoonful after spoonful of carefully designed and dispersed Government disinformation and bullshit???

'Cause they've been dumbing their population down for a couple of years already? That way they're so easy to mold.


It shows too, I know a lot of Americans from various ages and the younger ones seem to not even have any geographical knowledge outside the block they live on :shock:

Let alone know there are other languages out there besides English.
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you mean American, not English ;)

Americans from the beginning have been born into a society that is strongly based on individualism and capitalism. Hey, its sure a great way to make moolah. But basing your whole infrastructural and cultural identy and social workings on those two pillars? No way in hell. Processed societies dwindling in conservatism is the root of oppression
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weedguru+chrisisonfire wrote:you mean American, not English ;)

Americans from the beginning have been born into a society that is strongly based on individualism and capitalism. Hey, its sure a great way to make moolah. But basing your whole infrastructural and cultural identy and social workings on those two pillars? No way in hell. Processed societies dwindling in conservatism is the root of oppression
As much as you might dislike it, American, as a language does not exist :)

You have British and American english, just like you have Belgian dutch and Dutch Dutch (yes , more than 50% of the Belgian population speaks Dutch, with a Belgian accent and some vocabulary differences)


yeah chris, i knew you were kidding :p
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im the kind of canadian that would rather see closer relations and policies to Europe rather than America. And yes Flow, i was kidding. I was making fun of the fact that some americans say they speak american.
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weedguru+chrisisonfire wrote:im the kind of canadian that would rather see closer relations and policies to Europe rather than America. And yes Flow, i was kidding. I was making fun of the fact that some americans say they speak american.
hurah, i'm somewhat able to perceive your sarcasm through the internets!
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Lol...American-English is an easier language to understand (in terms of slang and accent)...think about it...what English people say is funny to Americans...and how George Bush talks from the U.S. Texan state makes you Europeans giggle...come onnnnn lol
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