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Dr. Greenthumb · Post by **Dr. Greenthumb** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 6:31 pm

good to see you back

Weedguru Cusmar · Post by **Weedguru Cusmar** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 11:58 am

Weedguru DrGreenthumb wrote:Guys I think I'm a little psychic.

has anyone seent he episode of South Park were the detectives think cartmans psychic?

hashpipe · Post by **hashpipe** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 1:20 pm

nope, although i laughed my ass off last night with the hippie episode....

Pubehair · Post by **Pubehair** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:34 pm

Lol. Yea I've seen that episode Cusmar. I almost died laughing when they were having the "psychic" battle in Cartman's living room. South Park is sweet.

FIRE!!! · Post by **FIRE!!!** » Tue Jul 11, 2006 5:44 pm

Weedguru DrGreenthumb wrote:good to see you back

I'm not much good at leaving this place it seems

Post by **weedguru_animal** » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:04 pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5171148.stm

60 palestinians dead because one israli soldier is kidnapped....Does this bother anybody????

Dr. Greenthumb · Post by **Dr. Greenthumb** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:53 am

it seems not. world conflicts will come and go but israel and palestine will always be at war. I know it sounds horrible and I'm not saying I would condone it but imagine what a more peaceful place the world would be if we nuked them both.

Ikku · Post by **Ikku** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:33 am

Before I got to the bottom of your post I had the same idea.

Post by **weedguru_animal** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:43 am

well Doc, I can understand that your view would be shared by the majority of Americans because your media services lie disgracefully about the battle. just like the media does here in Australia.
for instance yesterday i read a quote by the australian foreign minister which read
"there has never been any reason to assume the detainees at Guantanamo Bay have been treated in any way other than humanely"

basic bullshit propoganda.

a neutral observer of the Middle east shouldn't be able to get past the fact that Israel continue to occupy land that isn't theirs. They retalitate to their soldiers been captured and held hostage by destroying bridges, power stations and railways...i.e.israel fuck up the palestinian infrastructure and kill civillians when they are trying to 'recover' one of their soldiers...

so now Hezbollah get involved, and why not??considering the Lebanese militant/political/religious group was formed originally as a result of Israels invasion and subsequent occupation of Lebanon, it can be no surprise that they want to help their arab brothers....So again, soldiers are taken hostage, israli soldiers, so how does the newly installed Israel pm react???
"no chance of dialogue..send in the f15s and tanks"......scum
when a group holds one of your people hostage is it Right to send in your army????is it Right to blow up the bridges, power stations and roads just to try force the release of the captive?
Also Hezbollah have clearly, publicly declared that they dont want an escalation to the violence, they want negogiation, and the release of arab prisoners from israli jails...

it might look unfair to demand the release of hundreds of prisoners in exchange for one or two israli soldiers, but how else can the palestinians and lebenese view the situation when israel regularly cull, and i am talking about the israli army/government here,not every israli, anyway because those sections of the israli society kill 10 times the amount of civillians than the do militants....

The overbearing military muscle of Israel has yet again been flexed, in my view, far too quickly and with devastating consequences...

even if the flames can be doused somewhat, within the next couple of years, Iran will be able to offer some it's own military might, nuclearmight at that, to the battlelines in the middle east...and then what??a nuclear stand-off between israel and Iran???

only solution is israel to stop occupying land that isnt theirs. until that happens the palestinians will feel, justifiably, like a subordinated society under the rule of the enemy in their own streets.
a rant for sure....and i must make it clear that i refer to the israli government and army, NOT ALL ISRALIS becaue i know that there are many wicked israli folk as i am sure there aremany wicked palestinians and lebenese folk.....

Dr. Greenthumb · Post by **Dr. Greenthumb** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:29 am

it has nothing to do with the media or being an American. it's based on the fact that if they weren't around to argue there wouldn't be an argument. simple logic

Post by **weedguru_animal** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:18 pm

i can imagine the world would be at war with itself if those two countries got nuked. it is a terrible cop-out to dismiss the wars in the middle east as just one of those issues which will always be burning. The israli government has been havily supported by the US government. not so much in recent years because it is now so obvious that Israel remain firmly stationed in foreign lands that even Bush himself has understood the situation. america and the UK go to war under the guise of 'spreading democracy' but they systematically ignore the continuous israli occupation of palestinian land.

I was sitting at work this afternoon, beavering away at the keys, listening to the vacant minded fuckwits around me speak bullshit, when I received a message from my lady. it was detailing some bad news for her close mate here, Sabine, who is from Lebanon. Her family shop had been bombed from the skies, demolished....their business gone, razed to the ground, by an Israli airstrike....the family survived, they were all luckily out of the shop when the bomb(s) hit....

it just made me think. while i am stuck in the anemic skyscraper, turning myself like a cog in a vast financial machine, the corporate mechanism, there were countless human beings getting slaughtered. For those few moments of pondering I felt the anger, the horror, the sheer despair of being born a palestinian...what could your future hold???you cant study, you cant play anywhere safe, everywhere you turn there are israli soldiers who treat you like scum....now what options does a child in that environment have???none other than war and violence.

which ever way i look at the myriad issues connected to the main palestine/israli battle, i always find myself unable to move past
ISRAEL OCCUPY PALESTINIAN LAND....

how would you feel if your land was occupied and run by a hateful, extremely well armed, massive foreign force?

The biggest evil purpertrated by the so called United Nations and all major western powers bar switzerland(who have publicly condemned the recent israli over-reaction to the kidnapping of soldiers and rocket attacks) is their intentional ignorance of the carnage in the Middle East...

the more people who assume that it is merely a tit for tat war that has raged for centuries, the less chance of the western powers making any constructive moves to sort the situation out. only through increased awareness and then group pressure can anything change. and if any of us are to feel even slightly content with how our taxes are been spent, then surely the Middle East must be brought into focus.

if we continue to ignore that region and it's many problems, we can bear no shock when the iranian nuclear tree ripens and bears fruit. Then maybe the West will show it's face in place of it's back.

didnt god say to bush, "georgeyboy, it is your job to bring peace to the middle east"......
Clinton had a good pop at it, but ultimately he was thwarted by the obstinance of Sharon....
Olmert worries me.

it isn't tit for tat, it is tit for tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat-tat

Ikku · Post by **Ikku** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:07 pm

As long as there are humans, there will always be war. Peace is impossible.

Post by **weedguru_animal** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:36 pm

i can't disagree with that, Ikku...even though i wish i could. The more my knowledge of history and the current global mess expands, the faster I am turning into a misanthrope. for so long i naievly believed that every human being had the capacity for compassion. but though there are without doubt some amazing human beings of now, the past and of the future, i definately have less respect for my own race than i do for most other races. For example i would greatly prefer to spend time with cats than with humans. i find them more advanced than us in so many ways, but then again all non-human creatures seem to have more awareness of the natural energies flowing from and around Nature. we humans have gradually persuaded ourselves that technological advance is the only worthwhile pursuit of our race. it hasn't always been this way for our humanity.

pacifism is very attractive but not an option for anyone wishing to put the world Right. there is too much Wrong. the only way things can change is through nuclear holocaust or a series of continental revolutions.

too late for more rambling...

Ikku · Post by **Ikku** » Thu Jul 13, 2006 6:06 pm

In some ways I wish humanity would cease to be...even if it would be the end of myself, I think we have done more harm than good, and I don't see any reason we're needed. But humanity will eventually die out, whether we destroy ourselves or nature does it for us. I doubt we'll even live long enough to see the sun swallow us alive in a few billion years.

Baybee · Post by **Baybee** » Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:41 am

Is it just me ...

Sometimes (after 2 or 3) Beer tastes like bubblegum

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