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MellowFourTwenty wrote:thanks bigdave for posting exactley what i knew was coming.i like different kinds of music(actual music) from mozart to tom petty to black sabbath and even some old country music. next time before you reply try asking what kind of music i like instead of instantly thinking i like rock just because i hate rap.by the way out of all those names you mentioned every song ive heard by them is still just talkin fast over a stupid beat, poetry my ass.



by the way ignorant meaning to lack knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified

i have plenty of friends who listen to underground rap and mainstream so ive heard plenty of rap songs and theres not much to comprehend which means my point of view is not ignorant.

Saying that Beats are made by using a generated beat is ignorant because they arent all the time. So what is so great about the lyrics from black sabbath? Those lyrics have no real meaning to them. You say you have listened to both mainstream and underground rap but have you actually sat there and listened to the lyrics? Actually thought about them? They are sure as hell much better than any Black Sabbath lyrics. By saying rapping isnt like poetry is ignorant aswell, like I said, actually listen to the lyrics and listen to what they are saying. Like I said noone is asking you to like it but to say Rap music is not real music is stupid.

thanks for making my point a little bit clearer dave all you talk about is lyrics and thats all rap is and its all been said before.if you read my post ive listened to many rap songs and listening includes hearing lyrics idiot.and ive doubt you have listened to black sabbath because lyrics are only 1/4th of their musical makeup unlike 3/4th in rap where all you get is a hook a chorus and a beat that was more than likely made on a computer(yes i know not all but 90% of them are so ha)not only that but most rappers cant even make their own beat they have to buy one, how pathetic is that.



discussion over, dont even bother to reply dave.

MellowFourTwenty wrote:thanks for making my point a little bit clearer dave all you talk about is lyrics and thats all rap is and its all been said before.if you read my post ive listened to many rap songs and listening includes hearing lyrics idiot.and ive doubt you have listened to black sabbath because lyrics are only 1/4th of their musical makeup unlike 3/4th in rap where all you get is a hook a chorus and a beat that was more than likely made on a computer(yes i know not all but 90% of them are so ha)not only that but most rappers cant even make their own beat they have to buy one, how pathetic is that.



discussion over, dont even bother to reply dave.

How many singers do you know that play the drums, guitar and bass? Maybe 1% of all Singers. Lyrics and the Beat make a rap song. What makes a rock song? The lyrics and the instruments that are played. A beat is Instruments being played, except they are not live at that time.

and how old are you with responses like this?

(yes i know not all but 90% of them are so ha)

Are you 12 years old? Thats some School kid response.

The simple fact remains, Hip Hop Beats = Live Intruments being recorded on a computer so that they can be replayed without the need of a band. So your comments about how they arent real even tho they are made exactly the same way as any other song isnt valid.

Rap Lyrics = A rapper talking about his life, what he sees, the world around them, which is better than any singer in a band going on about stuff that it total nonsense.

So I guess Drum and Bass isnt music either considering that is made by computers?

But like I said, its not about you liking it but to say its not music is ignorant because your basically saying rock music isnt music.

I dont really care for alot of music other than Hip Hop and abit of Rock but I respect all music for what it is but dont bother replying, your ignorance and your poor excuses to try and "win" this with little jabs that a 12 year old just proves you cant be taken seriously. Your comments = Invalid

Im a huge fan of hip hop and also love rock. mellow you should really try being less ignorant. there are raps with guitar and rock in the backround rock is a form of poetry. good point in saying blacksabbath is more about the music than the lyrics but did you ever consider that we live in a world that may have more than just one style of music.

btw plenty of rappers make there own beats and the reason that some dont is because they are song writers same as many rock singers who are supported by their band. to call big dave an idiot because he doesnt agree with your ignorant view is ridiculous. so back up off him unless you are ready to contribute your 2 cents (make that 1 cent) in a kind manner

First of all....Rap is good music..Rock is good music.....Shit man, all music will be hated and liked....Im just stoked we got a shitload of EVERY style and "kind" of music....

The rap I like (Im from TN, so its more South rappers than any others)

Lil Wyte (HCP)- No shit...this dude can RAP!!!
Lil Wayne- Dudes got some nice flows with good beats
Chamillionare- Made it big, but his latest shit is nice ridin music
The rest of HCP- Chrome, Frayser Boy, Three Six Mafia, Project Pat- Bad beats with good flows by all of em....
T.I.-Kinda pop/r.b. type, but has nice beats with some tight verses...
A lot more, but im fried so fuck it

Rock (just a few, im damn faded)

Evans Blue
Pink Floyd
Tom Petty
Ted Nugent
Hendrix
Eric Clapton
Metallica
System of a Down
Rage
Skynyrd
Foghat
A fuckload more


Stay up....Im out...

I don't care what anyone says; Rage Against the Machine was one of the greatest bands EVER. And they have rappish lyrics. ICP is good too and so are Run DMC.
All this is coming from a kid who loves Rock n' Roll.

I have a bunch of songs from a rapper who is probably one of the smartest people i heard so far. The way he throws these 15 letter long words in every other line and keeps it sounddin so nice is insane. rap is all about style not so much bout rhyming, but you still need rhymes now and then.

Rap it music, well good rap is. I have developed a hatred for commercial rap (50 cent, the game, young jeezy, whatever other shit you've got), but if you listen to talented rappers, you can see they are lyrical geniuses. Listen to some good freestyle rap and the way they manipulate words around takes far more talent then singing. I'm not only into rap at all though, but i enjoy a good rapper every once and again.

exactly, most of the popular rap really sucks, I don't like listening to lyrics where bitch or fuck is constantly used. I don't like constant songs about sex or bangin' bitches either. I like listening to rap that is just good.
Some eminem songs I'll listen to, but I don't know.

Download the song F.H.H. feat. Jakki by RJD2, its a song by a talented rapper about the shitty commercial rap that everyone enjoys. The chorus goes:
"Keep tryna keep it real by keepin' it raw
While half of y'all still be keepin' it flawed
And all the real heads scream 'FUCK HIP HOP!'
Until this mediocre bullshit stops"

RJD2 is the shit, i have a friend who looks exactly like him almost twins.