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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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Drip systems (aka "Dutch Pots", "Aquafarm", or "Drippers") are very common because they are simple and effective. They are also simple and cheap to build, if you want to experiment on your own. Drippers work very well for medium to large plants, as well as long term crops.

Drip systems are probably most similar to the Ebb & Flow systems. Drippers run the pump on a timer, pumping nutrient into the pots, where it immediately drains back into the reservoir. After a preset interval, the pump stops, letting the remainder of nutrient drain into the reservoir and the roots absorb oxygen.

Timing is also similar to the Ebb & Flow - typically 15 minutes pump run time, and 45 minutes off, although this is entirely up to you. Additionally, the dripper heads are individually adjustable so you can tailor the flow to the individual plant. This is a great advantage where you may have both seedlings and mature plants on the same system.

There exists another type of dripper where the nutrient flows into the pots very slowly - and does not return to the reservoir. Instead, the nutrients are evaporated, used by the plants, or run to a drain. This is termed a "run to waste" system, and although somewhat successful, it is not very popular. Salt buildup from the nutrients is very difficult to control.

Drippers are somewhat simpler than the Ebb & Flow in that there is no need for an overflow - the nutrient is constantly being drained back into the reservoir without the use of valves. Although there is still the possibility of tubing or pumps plugging up, it is reduced in the dripper. Redundancy in the containers also helps improve overall reliability.
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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There's a possibility that the plant is over fertilized. Minimize the use of fertilizer or else it will dry up and die.
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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emilyblunt wrote:There's a possibility that the plant is over fertilized. Minimize the use of fertilizer or else it will dry up and die.
Claw isn't exactly a symptom of over-ferting...it's usually begins with burnt edges on the leaves
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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in my particular case i had some "clawing" i guess you could call it, they were curling under a bit and looking weird... the new shoots were growing out all crooked and whatnot... but, my particular problem was solved by lowering the nutes and giving the root system more air by turning off my pump.. or it could be the roots are suffocating or you are over-nuting... or both. could also be neither, but this seems similar to what happened to me.. one of mine was turning yellow though, from no air not N-def., while yours are dark green, though i also had some dark green ones too.... fuck, i dunno man lol/

just recently they started curling up again and i backed off on the nutes and used rainwater, which made them perk back up and grow more and grow a bunch of new stark-white fuzzy roots, which i think is a sign of good roots.. i've noticed they grow a lot faster when they are kinda perky or flat rather than drooping or curling.. kinda obvious but yeh. :P
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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^ Those fuzzy roots are called feeder roots
Roots of plants have one of two main purposes - the first is to hold the plant in the ground by what are known as as anchor roots . The second purpose is to take up nutrients and water - these feeder roots are smaller and relatively short-lived compared to the anchor roots
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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hmm well it seems like the existing roots went from like smooth to fuzzy on the ends that are sticking out into the air... so its all the same "type" of roots, 1 type that either gets fuzzy or smooth depending on how wet it is... what i'm trying to say is it doesn't seem like there are separate types of roots that do different things as that quote suggests... just one type that adjusts or changes... i think the fuzz acts kinda like little micro roots that absorb moisture very efficiently by "catching" it so to speak...

MJ plants as far as i can tell through my observations, do not grow "anchor roots" or "feeder roots", just plain old roots that do both of those things... and the fuzzy ones are not "short lived", but rather they just lose the fuzz and become smooth, or vice versa. it sounds like that theory was based on incomplete observations of soil grows where you can't really see the roots, so you wouldn't know that the two types are one and the same. seems to me that good solid information is pretty hard to find when it comes to plants, as if it's a new field of discovery or something...

just pointing that out.. i could be totally wrong.
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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You are wrong

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Those little roots sticking out off the main roots are feeder roots...the other ones are the anchor roots
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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oh, i see what you're talking about now, the fuzz i was talking about is like microscopic almost, like those feeder roots would have it on them..
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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Is this a plant in hydro? It could be this too..
Roots that are exposed mainly to air develop a 'fuzz' which gives it a greater surface area and allows it to absorb more air gases around it.

Roots that are mainly in water tend not to be fuzzy, or if they are, the water surface tension makes the fuzz lay flat, giving a smooth appearance.
Mold could also be fuzzy like...too wet not enough air
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Re: Leaves on buds are clawlike......??

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yeah that's what i was talking about. the fuzz the shows up when the roots are in air or mist.. they reside in a closed tank so the humidity level is quite high where the roots are so they absorb moisture and air with the fuzz, and i figured, like it said up there, they were for the surface area. they are healthy looking roots and the plant itself becomes healthy looking when the fuzz shows up during the non-drip period or when at least half of the roots are not within the drip but are sticking into air.

i noticed when the pump was left off too long the roots dried out a little bit and one plant got real droopy, like floppy and weak, but it perked up immensely once it got more water and is now looking much better than the others which are kinda droopy looking, but they are curling down not drooping because they are rigid and firm, not weak and floppy. they are all getting roughly the same amount of water from the same supply and most roots look like they are exposed to about the same amount of water/air, so i don't see why some are rigid and curling and others are just fine even thriving.
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