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Weedguru Higher wrote:Flow writes very good english for it being his second language.
i honestly thought that english was his primary language considering he knows fancier words than i do.

then again i talk like im fuckin ricky.
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And we like you for begin ricky.




Wait...
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WeedGuru_Flow wrote:And we like you for begin ricky.




Wait...
what the fuck is that supposed to mean you fuckin peltian fuck. *storms off and lights a 2nd cigarette butt*


nah im nicer than that on the intranet plus i know how to pronounce youre countries name :D
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Belgiums? :)
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i like this topic.
because i'm the first visual cause of english destruction on these forums.
it is not my native language, and i do not take time to care too much about how i use it.
i promise that if it was my native language, i would respect it as much as i respect and love french. But it isnt the case.

French is a second nature to me. I use it with perfection without thinking about it.
and I truly hate broken french, it looks like crap. And it frustrates me to see how most of teens ruins it.
French is about to disapear because of this, they mix it with english and ruins it 's beauty.... it will be out of the place within the next 50years, montreal will be considered as an english city in 2 years..

i'm a perfectionist about french, i understand what you mean, Animal.

i'm sorry if i destroy your language with my sms and abbreviations. =-/ I should take care about it a little bit more as much as i take care to how i write my french.
i've been on these forums for 5 years and they definitly improved my english tho. Much more than school would've.
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Mate wrote: French is a second nature to me. I use it with perfection without thinking about it.
and I truly hate broken french, it looks like crap. And it frustrates me to see how most of teens ruins it.
French is about to disapear because of this, they mix it with english and ruins it 's beauty.... it will be out of the place within the next 50years, montreal will be considered as an english city in 2 years..
Yeah but Canada is a nation with two official languages. Certainly other areas where French is spoken such as France, Belgium and certain cantons in Switzerland would not have children mixing french words with English. It would be interesting to know if any Belgians mix in Dutch with their French and vice versa :lol:. I do agree that it ruins its beauty, but it's also kind of a special thing to be able to mix two languages in one sentence and have others understand and acknowledge your words. Canada, and Quebec in particular is a unique place. :stoned2:

As for Montreal being considered any more of an english city than it already is in 2 years, I just don't see this being the case.
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Mate wrote:i like this topic.
because i'm the first visual cause of english destruction on these forums.
it is not my native language, and i do not take time to care too much about how i use it.
i promise that if it was my native language, i would respect it as much as i respect and love french. But it isnt the case.

French is a second nature to me. I use it with perfection without thinking about it.
and I truly hate broken french, it looks like crap. And it frustrates me to see how most of teens ruins it.
French is about to disapear because of this, they mix it with english and ruins it 's beauty.... it will be out of the place within the next 50years, montreal will be considered as an english city in 2 years..

i'm a perfectionist about french, i understand what you mean, Animal.

i'm sorry if i destroy your language with my sms and abbreviations. =-/ I should take care about it a little bit more as much as i take care to how i write my french.
i've been on these forums for 5 years and they definitly improved my english tho. Much more than school would've.
I accepted long ago, that your desire to express yourself in english, mate, was non existent...the problem I have with your posts, in english, is that I often find myself seriously wanting to understand you, but your efforts in my mother tongue leading to your potentially very interesting points, becoming retarded...surely that would bother you??? As it would bother anyone who attempts to involve themselves in a meaningful debate and their expressions were simply, appearing as, complete gobbledegook???

I DO understand what you say...my french is very basic, my italian a fair amount better, but still, its broken italian. And I have very little proper intention to improve it. However, if I was to regularly communicate in italian, I would force myself to improve...I argue about language often with the frenchies and german I live with. Not so much these days actually, as we had a little friendly competition, regarding which language has the most words, and english came up at 150-200000 and the frog tongue was closer to 40-50000. As I had demanded they accept, before we checked. I love english. Its amazingly versatile as has more words, very slight variations of variations to describe things in different ways...Italian is beautiful when spoken by gorgeous italian women, as spanish is caressing to my spirit and loins when spoken by nubile spanish women....other than that...I like the way arabic is printed, and am continually stunned by how my workmate writes in singalese...
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weedguru_animal wrote:
Mate wrote: i'm sorry if i destroy your language with my sms and abbreviations. =-/ I should take care about it a little bit more as much as i take care to how i write my french.
i've been on these forums for 5 years and they definitly improved my english tho. Much more than school would've.
I DO understand what you say...my french is very basic, my italian a fair amount better, but still, its broken italian. And I have very little proper intention to improve it. However, if I was to regularly communicate in italian, I would force myself to improve....
Yes. with my current job - that's what i start to realise, i need to improve my english
i get 5-10 english clients every day. i text like 10 english friends of mine.
My girlfriend has lot of english folks in her familly. All these factors show me i need to step up with my english grammar and syntax.

i've been told so many time i should improve my english, and i always feel like these people, telling me to make my english better, want me to stop using french.
I wish you were a friend of mine animal, because every now and often, you say things out here that makes me want to change for the best. i can't imagine how positive your impact on my life would be if i'd really know you.

i just still feel bad about french getting sucked out of the globe by english
and that i want to make my english better.
refusing to improve my english is refusing to make my life easier.
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Mate wrote:i like this topic. because i'm the first visual cause of english destruction on these forums.
That's pretty funny. :lol: I'm sure you speak eloquently in French, Mate.

I think I understand where you're coming from, Mate. Firstly, (and you're probably sick of hearing it but...) to those of us who do not speak French, any given sentence spoken in French sounds like some ethereal incantation. It is very beautiful, and yet it's hard to put a finger on why... Being a native English speaker, it's hard for me to think of English as anything but a means to communicate. I do not hear any beauty in the English language when it comes down to pure tones and sounds. I do however hear the beauty in an eloquent speaker putting together the proper words with quickness and precision.

I can't believe I've had nothing to submit in this thread until now... It's probably due to the fact that I haven't been quite sure WHAT to say precisely... I have something of an ambivalent opinion concerning the use of English language, particularly concerning proper grammar and perspicuousness. Let me explain... (For those of you who are still keen on discussing...) Many of my best friends, and some of my favorite people, care not for syntax rules or precise language. To get their point across, they simply spout out how they feel in as many descriptive words as possible. That combined with their body language is (in most cases) enough to be adequately understood. However, when one gets used to a basic and rather lazy way of speaking, some deeper and more complex discussions can become difficult. This is why I try to exercise a larger extent of my vocabulary every day. I do not want to see (particularly in the united states) the majority succumb perpetually to that lazy, basic method of English. Because sometimes 'good enough' isn't good enough for me.
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pkkupo wrote:I think I understand where you're coming from, Mate. Firstly, (and you're probably sick of hearing it but...) to those of us who do not speak French, any given sentence spoken in French sounds like some ethereal incantation. It is very beautiful, and yet it's hard to put a finger on why...
i think french is way more complete and litteral than english.
I prefer to read books in french - i can affirm it's 100 times better.
but i watch most of movies in english. I prefer the original versions, the translations sucks most of the time.

pkkupo wrote:Being a native English speaker, it's hard for me to think of English as anything but a means to communicate. I do not hear any beauty in the English language when it comes down to pure tones and sounds. I do however hear the beauty in an eloquent speaker putting together the proper words with quickness and precision.
I use english to communicate only with 20% of people i talk with.
French is what i've been at school with, what i speak everyday, and they're both really really different
English is only an option i've always tought i should not care about.
But with that post animal made - i'm really motivated to work on it.

pkkupo wrote:I can't believe I've had nothing to submit in this thread until now... It's probably due to the fact that I haven't been quite sure WHAT to say precisely... I have something of an ambivalent opinion concerning the use of English language, particularly concerning proper grammar and perspicuousness. Let me explain... (For those of you who are still keen on discussing...) Many of my best friends, and some of my favorite people, care not for syntax rules or precise language. To get their point across, they simply spout out how they feel in as many descriptive words as possible. That combined with their body language is (in most cases) enough to be adequately understood. However, when one gets used to a basic and rather lazy way of speaking, some deeper and more complex discussions can become difficult. This is why I try to exercise a larger extent of my vocabulary every day. I do not want to see (particularly in the united states) the majority succumb perpetually to that lazy, basic method of English. Because sometimes 'good enough' isn't good enough for me.
same problem with french - i think it's a de-evolution of every languages on the planet....
a de-evolution of people, to be global.
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Unfortunate as it may be, I think you're probably spot on concerning that last statement. I think it's rather pacifistic and somewhat pathetic (almost rude, really...) that us U.S. Americans are not forcefully subjected to either French or Spanish as children. Because inevitably, we will encounter many situations where it would be of great benefit to understand others native languages.
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Mate wrote:
weedguru_animal wrote:
Mate wrote: i'm sorry if i destroy your language with my sms and abbreviations. =-/ I should take care about it a little bit more as much as i take care to how i write my french.
i've been on these forums for 5 years and they definitly improved my english tho. Much more than school would've.
I DO understand what you say...my french is very basic, my italian a fair amount better, but still, its broken italian. And I have very little proper intention to improve it. However, if I was to regularly communicate in italian, I would force myself to improve....
Yes. with my current job - that's what i start to realise, i need to improve my english
i get 5-10 english clients every day. i text like 10 english friends of mine.
My girlfriend has lot of english folks in her familly. All these factors show me i need to step up with my english grammar and syntax.

i've been told so many time i should improve my english, and i always feel like these people, telling me to make my english better, want me to stop using french.
I wish you were a friend of mine animal, because every now and often, you say things out here that makes me want to change for the best. i can't imagine how positive your impact on my life would be if i'd really know you.

i just still feel bad about french getting sucked out of the globe by english
and that i want to make my english better.
refusing to improve my english is refusing to make my life easier.
Cheers, mate...for taking my words as I hoped they would be taken.
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SToNeR ChRiS wrote:
Mate wrote: French is a second nature to me. I use it with perfection without thinking about it.
and I truly hate broken french, it looks like crap. And it frustrates me to see how most of teens ruins it.
French is about to disapear because of this, they mix it with english and ruins it 's beauty.... it will be out of the place within the next 50years, montreal will be considered as an english city in 2 years..
Yeah but Canada is a nation with two official languages. Certainly other areas where French is spoken such as France, Belgium and certain cantons in Switzerland would not have children mixing french words with English. It would be interesting to know if any Belgians mix in Dutch with their French and vice versa :lol:. I do agree that it ruins its beauty, but it's also kind of a special thing to be able to mix two languages in one sentence and have others understand and acknowledge your words. Canada, and Quebec in particular is a unique place. :stoned2:

As for Montreal being considered any more of an english city than it already is in 2 years, I just don't see this being the case.
Well Chris me and my buddies actually mix Dutch and English all the time, simply because we all like speaking English, so we switch from language to language during conversation,some find it weird.

SO I can definitely imagine people from Brussels (capital region,also dutch & french,mostly french though) using both Dutch and French during conversations.

Unfortunately the more you head towards france the less chance you have that people speak anything but french, lazy cunts, but what are you gonna do huh? :)


And Mate, your English is fine, I don't mind spelling mistakes because I make them all the time!
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I don't mind Mate's english much either. The only real significant mistakes are words translations. Like in a post I read earlier this morning he was talking about a girl's robe, meaning a dress. In french the word is robe(pronounced rub), so the logical translations into english is robe. Same goes for hairs....I understand those errors easily as I too speak french. He has a very good vocabulary too, even better than mine. I can write basic english with almost no errors but when getting into bigger words I have a harder time. He can express himself way better than me
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i got that from when i was playing worlf of warcraft.
i played a priest... and every chest items i got were 'Robes'
like *Transcendance Robe*, etc

so yea. lol
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