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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 9:46 pm
by Weedguru_Fire_Inside
Funk Doctor wrote:They're not looking at anything from any angle. 98% of their arguments have been disproved, yet they still feel the need to spout the same bullshit over and over, and anyone who goes against them is either brainwashed or a retard.

Also, have you taken a look at some of the shit they say? They say that some of the passengers killed in the attacks are actually alive and well, but hidden away by the government. In terms of disrespect for their families, that one takes the cake.
haha, no i haven't heard that shit. that's fairly disgusting. and that is disrespectful, so i do see where you're coming from with that. however i do think that many of the facts are covered up by the american government.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:13 pm
by Funk Doctor
Example?

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:36 am
by BlazedAndConfused
I HATE 911 conspiracy THEORIES!!!
my step dad devotes his life to them. hes trying to make 911 conspiracy TRADING CARDS!!! WHAT A FRUIT!!! i hate that motherfucker! ive heard every single bs story about how the government is out to get us and about controlled demolitions!!! STFU!!! even if this bs story is true, u cant change anything. its done. bush is out of office in a year. GET ON WITH YOUR LIFE!!!

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 3:57 am
by Ikku
Sounds like your step dad is just trying to cash in on a current craze. That's not loser, that's American.

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 8:46 pm
by Unkilted Scotsman
this makes you think a whole lot, all those movies will come true, and the prosicuted underground will have to make a stand, and that undergrounds foundations are being laid down now, along with the new brainwashing culture. i for one do not want to fall into this shite, but people will need to learn why there world is so 1984ish and that is what conspiracy people the world over are trying to tell us. just not enough of us are listening. and if things followdown this path for to long, it may be to late, the informed need to get in contact, stand together if not for now, for the future to come. because once it happens it will be a long painful process to get back.

yes this was also put into the other zeitgeist thread, wanted to make sure ppl got it

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:17 pm
by JokersAce
weedguru_animal wrote:I don't see how people questioning the role of the US government in the 9/11 horror-show are showing any disrespect for the victims. the opposite is true, because publically accusing the US government of anything untoward takes bravery, especially for a yankee living in yankeeworld. Of course there are- amongst the intelligent level headed folk who are trying to raise awareness of Why and What really happened- numerous attention seeking crazies who are using the Attack as a window of opportunity to feel important...Personally I cannot fail to see the path of destruction that has ensued since 9/11 which was undoubtedly planned many months, maybe years before... Bush and his snake brothers have all gained from subsequent US military endeavours which by and large were launched ostensibly to Fight Terrorism, the very Terrorism which was brought onto American Shores and then slammed into the Twin Towers. Conspiracy theories are plentiful regarding the Attack because there is a wealth of evidence pointing towards High level US Government involvement. For anyone too blinded by misguided patriotism, who sincerely believes that the US government really cares for it's grunts, check out WACO. That country is run by a gang of greedy, heartless scum who don't give a flying fuck about anything but making Money and raping this planet and it's creatures for all they can give before being crushed to a pulp.
bro, I don't know what your arguing. :?:

Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 9:30 pm
by Kaynoq
...i wouldnt be surprised if it was a government setup

luckily i dont give a damn about government or religion or any of that riff raff

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:45 am
by Ziggy
The towers were designed to withstand a plane crashing into them, and only 3 steel structured buildings in history have ever gone down due to fire...and those three were the twin towers and that other building which was actually demolished using explosives because the guy who owns it even admitted it.

Posted: Tue Aug 14, 2007 6:12 am
by Funk Doctor
Minor, yet important, correction: the WTC was designed to withstand a 707 lost in the fog, travelling at approach speed after having dumped most of its fuel. The WTC towers were hit by fully loaded 757s travelling at over 500 mph. That's a wee difference, wouldn't you agree?

That's typical of the 9/11 CTers. They'll find a 'fact', but twist it around just enough to make it conveniently fit their little theories.

No steel building has indeed been destroyed by a fire, but then again, now steel building was ever hit by loaded 757s travelling at over 500 miles per hour. It's not the fires that brought down the WTC towers, it was the damage done by the airplanes crashing into them. Many structural engineers were surprised the buildings lasted for as long as they did.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 2:19 am
by Ziggy
I still believe it was staged. Building went down too fast (approx at the rate of gravity) collapsed neatly in on itself, plus why would they have all that control demolition set up in the third buildging.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:19 pm
by bobdole
No offense, but you can go suck a fat sausage.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 3:36 pm
by JokersAce
but ur 2 patriotic 2 kno the truth

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:05 pm
by Ziggy
bobdole wrote:No offense, but you can go suck a fat sausage.
I'm guessing you think the government (remember its bush, cheny and condi we're talking about here) is too loyal to its citizens to kill a few hundred of em if it means making billions for themselves. Now a days i think the government is just another position or job that comes with massive amounts of power, and in the end power always corrupts.

If the government had conducted itself in another way after the attack I may feel differently. However, every move, every law enacted and posture taken makes me believe more and more that they did it.

There is nothing more damning to the Bush administration and connected agencies than their own conduct. When engaging in speculation about 9/11, just remember that following the attack, this government has only implicated itself further in its ensuing actions.

Now we stand 5 years later with an overwhelming degree of evidence to that cause. Laws have been written ensuring the country to Bush, bypassing a 2008 election and catapulting that democracy into facism.

Thats how i see things.

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:10 pm
by JokersAce
So Britain and Spain killed it's own people too? Or was that the American Empire as well?

Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 10:26 pm
by Ziggy
Do you mean the terrorist activities that happened there?