Monarchy

[leprechaun]

It may be because i do not see myself as british, but i really do not see any point of the queen, or any of the royal family. In my eyes all she does is sit on her arse all day and get payed for it. And why? becasue years ago her ancestors decided to kill people for their land. any 1 feel the same, or has any 1 got a reason why ther shud be a family taking your money for no reason at all ???

typical taig

typical orangeman ...

dont get the wrong idea, im not sectarian, but im proud to be be Irish...

Tiocfaidh Ar La - Oglaigh na hEirean Abu

[SQUEEZABLE]

oh well thats alright, as i never said anything before about your name/avatar/signature and well, i thot theres a person whose just as proud of his culture as i am mine. but then with the monarchy topic i thought you would be starting loads of them sorta posts, trying to get folk to um, whats the word... like sympathise with the republican cause (as well as putting down the british) (as we know how many americans can get brought into that verrrrrrrry easily)]

dont get the wrong idea, im not sectarian, but im proud to be be British...

naeboady takin oor fowkgates - F G A U

[SQUEEZABLE]

and no, INLA wouldnt be my lots best of friends

[leprechaun]

no i think posting alot of topics like that would just be a waste of time, but generally dont see the point in the monarchy, didnt want it to be an anti-queen thing but i can see why you took it that way, so no hard feelings... what part of Ulster u from?, im guessing not Donegal.

[(weedguru)scarf]

i dont have anything against the monarchy
just tradition i guess

[snowie]

I just dont understand the point, what does the queen even do? she doesnt even have a purpose, she's not really involved at all with the government. It just seems totally ridiculous and pointless

[blackxs]

Europeans have strong ancestreal ties, and a much greater feeling of history and love for their country than we do. The queen did a lot in the past, and although still does some work, does admittingly less now; but due to the fact that the queen has been there for so long, europeans wish not to change that. Its a very european thing, one they wish to hold to. Most europeans also arent big fans of change. Note that the ones who DID want change, sailed over to what is now the united states and started a country based off brand new radical ideas that had been completely rejected in europe.

[blackxs]

Europeans have strong ancestreal ties, and a much greater feeling of history and love for their country than we do. The queen did a lot in the past, and although still does some work, does admittingly less now; but due to the fact that the queen has been there for so long, europeans wish not to change that. Its a very european thing, one they wish to hold to. Most europeans also arent big fans of change. Note that the ones who DID want change, sailed over to what is now the united states and started a country based off brand new radical ideas that had been completely rejected in europe.

[Ikku]

What the fuck blackxs? That's just such a stupid and ignorant point of view. Europeans don't like change? You realize that Europe is a bit more progressive than the United States?

[leprechaun]

Europeans have strong ancestreal ties, and a much greater feeling of history and love for their country than we do. The queen did a lot in the past, and although still does some work, does admittingly less now; but due to the fact that the queen has been there for so long, europeans wish not to change that. Its a very european thing, one they wish to hold to. Most europeans also arent big fans of change. Note that the ones who DID want change, sailed over to what is now the united states and started a country based off brand new radical ideas that had been completely rejected in europe.

Where did you pull this from ???

[WeedGuru_Flow]

erh, dude.

Europe's an evolving continent, the European Union has expanded enormously over the last few years (27 countries in total now) so you telling us we don't like change (thus are a conservative people) is completely untrue...

[Darth Inhaler]

I see most royalty in today's world as a national symbol, not a supreme ruler

After the age of monarchys, democracies and communism were getting bigger.
democracy litterally killed off most communists, so they won the battle.
Now today's world is a democratical one, and that's where the real power is.
I'm sure in the future, something will come along and kick the crap out of democracy, and perhaps america will view their president as a national symbolm not a figure of lawful power, much like the royalties of today

[Ikku]

That's pretty much what the President already is.

[Darth Inhaler]

Are you kidding? The president has so much power, it's unreasonable....

He can claim anything as 'national security' so he can legally keep things from the public...and that could be anything since the justice system and even congress aren't allowed to know what this 'national security' problem is!!!

And there's so much more he's allowed to do without being checked....

[Ikku]

No he's not really allowed all that much power, remember he's just a man, Congress can override any decision of his if they want to, and if they don't, then it should be considered silent approval by the entire government. For information to be classified, a proper authority (NOT the president) has to decide what level of classification to put it in (there are three levels: Confidential, Secret, and Top Secret), and it goes through certain procedures. I think there's also a time limit on classified information (not too sure) and it has to be reviewed to see if it still needs to be classified.

But people grossly overestimate the president's power, like I said, he's just one man. Remember that it was Congress that authorized the use of force in Iraq.