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My mom told me a while back when I told her I knew one of my friend's dad's smoked weed. She said, that stuff is okay in high school and college if you can control yourself, but when you start to get older it can become a problem.

So, I don't really know how she would react, but I know my dad doesn't really care. I just don't smoke where they can see me smoke and I don't smoke in my room until after they go to bed. Might as well respect them.

Matten, you found any of those videos i think i mentioned? About the Anslinger guy and why marijuana is really illegal and how God made it (if they are religious) plus its not like LSD and stuff that has to be processed,

you plant the seed and you get weed (rhymes) you dry it and thats just about it, theres no difference between weed and spices as I see it. Damn, make turkey illegal cuz its all natural and is actually a natural tranquilizer (something to do with the chemicals in the meat).


we've also been discussing why its illegal in the Mass Debate section check it out.

^Cannabis evolved through natural selection.

And really I hate the argument that because it comes from a plant, it's alright. A lot of pot smokers are against cocaine, opiates (heroin?), hell even tobacco. It's really not an argument you want to use on your parents, they can probably bring up quite a few examples of "natural" things that are harmful. Truth be told, something made in a lab (like say for instance, LSD) can actually be safer than something taken from a plant (say, tobacco).

There is an extremely dangerous substance that is usually made by bacteria metabolizing plant material in the absence of oxygen. The substance is poisonous, addictive, and a whole lot of fun. Alcohol.

And really I hate the argument that because it comes from a plant, it's alright. A lot of pot smokers are against cocaine, opiates (heroin?), hell even tobacco. It's really not an argument you want to use on your parents, they can probably bring up quite a few examples of "natural" things that are harmful. Truth be told, something made in a lab (like say for instance, LSD) can actually be safer than something taken from a plant (say, tobacco).

There is an extremely dangerous substance that is usually made by bacteria metabolizing plant material in the absence of oxygen. The substance is poisonous, addictive, and a whole lot of fun. Alcohol. Cool

i just explained this.

LSD is not safe in anyway at all and was made by scientists and involves MANY chemicals. Many big companies add nicotine and other chemicals to tobacco...and in order to make cocaine you must also add chemicals, many chemicals actually and most of them are stuff you have in your kitchen. so don''t feed me this bullshit, all of those things you listed are tampered with by humans and have chemicals added to them. And to even list heroine in the same category as marijuana is absolutely absurd and just unintelligent. heroine is also tampered with in MANY ways by humans, none of the above listed substances you mentioned grow naturally and in their original state can be used like cannabis.


LSD has many overdoses and death records on it and can give you NUMEROUS mental problems that we don't have cures for.
lsd can fuck over ur personality and mental stability for life, it sends thousands to therapy and not to mention horrible trips and flash backs.

cocaine is very addictive. MJ isn't.
you can become dependant on anything, but that's very different from addiction.


when he uses the term NATURAL he means NATURAL, not some jackass adding shit to it, you can dry up weed and smoke it right there, you can't do that with cocaine or anything else, you must do extracts and additions to yield the other products.



edit - there is so much to say without getting pissed off that i'll just stop here

matten wrote: LSD is not safe in anyway at all and was made by scientists and involves MANY chemicals.

Wrong. LSD is one chemical, lysergic acid diethylamide. It's one molecule. There are more chemicals (naturally occurring granted) in marijuana. If you're going to say that LSD you buy on the street could be laced with something, that's not a valid argument in favor of cannabis, because that can also easily be laced with say, PCP.

Many big companies add nicotine and other chemicals to tobacco

While tobacco might contain additives, nicotine isn't added, it occurs naturally in tobacco.

and in order to make cocaine you must also add chemicals, many chemicals actually and most of them are stuff you have in your kitchen.

Cocaine itself is an extract from coca leaves, and is also a single chemical. Cocaine can be laced with stuff like baking soda etc. to add weight, but cocaine itself is just a plant extract.

so don''t feed me this bullshit, all of those things you listed are tampered with by humans and have chemicals added to them. And to even list heroine in the same category as marijuana is absolutely absurd and just unintelligent. heroine is also tampered with in MANY ways by humans, none of the above listed substances you mentioned grow naturally and in their original state can be used like cannabis.

The only way you can be sure your marijuana isn't laced with anything is by growing it yourself. You can also grow your own tobacco, make your own LSD, cocaine, etc.

LSD has many overdoses and death records on it and can give you NUMEROUS mental problems that we don't have cures for.
lsd can fuck over ur personality and mental stability for life, it sends thousands to therapy and not to mention horrible trips and flash backs.

There are no known human cases of LSD overdose. Estimates for its lethal dosage are up to 1mg/kg of body weight, while LSD is usually taken in micrograms, that is, millionths of a gram. I don't think anyone can even afford enough acid to overdose on it. And as far as causing mental problems, it will only do that in people who are mentally unstable to begin with.

I don't want to discourage anyone from smoking weed, hey I love it. But these arguments that it's safer simply because it's natural are absurd. Don't try to use them on your parents, it simply won't work.

EDIT: Forgot to mention alcohol. I talked about it in my last post. There's another naturally occurring substance that's probably the most widely abused drug on the planet.

ok me and Matten have been talking about this, when we say NATURAL we mean exactly what you said, HOMEGROWN! Since when have you heard of Little Jimmy down the street growing coca leaves to cook cocain, or growing tabacco to then ship it off to make tar infested ciggarets with it, or mixing up chemicals to make LSD.

and the thing about no one ever dieing cuz of LSD??? ARE YOU HIGH???? People have become MENTALLY RETARDED due to LSD over dose, they have also DIED. They have also KILLED THEM SELVES due to bad trips and stuff like that.

Since when have you heard that MJ kills on over does, makes you retarded, makes you unaware of what you are doing and makes you kill yourself cuz you think your super man or something?? NEVER


im not even gonna keep going with this

Hmm, tar infested cigarettes you say? Tar is a byproduct of burning the tobacco, did you know that marijuana actually produces more tar than tobacco?

and the thing about no one ever dieing cuz of LSD??? ARE YOU HIGH???? People have become MENTALLY RETARDED due to LSD over dose, they have also DIED. They have also KILLED THEM SELVES due to bad trips and stuff like that.

Well I am a little stoned but still. Death from LSD overdose has not been confirmed toxicologically. Same as MJ. Some people have had psychological problems and suicides resulting from LSD, but this usually occurs in people who are already mentally unstable or who use it irresponsibly (ie without a trip sitter).

And MJ makes me unaware of what I'm doing a lot. A lot of times I forget where I am, who I'm with, what I am in the middle of doing, etc. But only when I'm really blazed.

Thing is, LSD is one of the safest drugs around, possibly safer than MJ because LSD doesn't have to be smoked and inhaled, but I'm not going to bet on it. Please don't miss the point of my posts though. I'm not saying that MJ isn't reasonably safe and great fun, I'm just saying that the whole "natural" argument is bunk.

tell them or smoke in front of them!

I dont agree with using LSD.Look how syd barret turned out,peter green.....

hmmm well atleast its not smoking crack i suppose, so LSD is ok. LSD is a no go zone for me anymore... but hey i dont have any problem with it.

HAHAHAAHA LSD IS NOT HARMFULL

OF CORSE IF U HIGH ON IT 24/7 ITS GONNA FUCK YOUR BRAIN UP

XTC KILLS MORE CELLS THAN 100 CAPS OF LSD ....

well with XTC... i have a chance of dying... but thats from my own contious mistake of swallowing that pill.

With LSD however, you have a bad trip you may try and commit suicide and even succeed... i however wouldnt want that. I want to be in control, not see shit that a drug is making me see? comprenday?

I've been wondering how I'd go telling my parents I was toking. both my mom and dad are stoners, my mom smokes almost all the time, my dad smokes only when he is done for the day and has nothing severely important left to do (driving and going places is a no-no but working on computers and fixing a rotted floor is okay. did I miss something there?). both my parents have talked to me about it, my mom said if I started shed kick my ass and my dad said he didnt want me doing it but if I was going to go hang myself or something... yeah my parents are bizarre...

tell them your doing a project for a class, interveiw the ask them what they think of current Marijuana laws, if they ever did it, do they think society should frown upon it, just be clever about it.

my dad walked in on me when i was jammin out to music de-seeding my shit. i had more than a half lying on the table and he says, "got some weed there, huh?" and just kept walking to his room. he said he was fine with it and doesnt mind me even smoking at home, how sweet!