Partial Birth Abortion

[Weedguru Cusmar]

I have changed my opinion mid post. If somebody doesn't want the baby they can put it up for adoption. I am undecided about rape cases, of course i completely sympathise with women in that position, but i really dont think being raped should give you the option to end a life.

[Mr Rotten Treats]

Suppose you were a woman, would you be willing to carry a child whose father is the man who raped you? I don't think many women could bear that, let alone raise the child properly. And what if that kid ever finds out who his real dad is?

[Squares]

i support abortions 100%. preferably before 24 weeks obviously, but the way i see it is not having an abortion could end up being a far crueler option, especially if the mother is a teenager. The foetus wont be destroyed but it will be born into a very dificult way of life, and the life of the mother would be changed unrecognisably.. one minute youre revising for your exams and looking around Unis, then BAM one little mistake and youre stuck changing nappies. I agree that people should use protection and stuff, especially as its so simple, but i wouldnt say about doing the time for the crime, as it means fucking about with entire lives.. which shouldnt have to be endured.

however, i did hear once about a woman who wanted an abortion because she had a skiing holiday planned and didnt want to be pregnant during it. Thats obviously wrong.. but i feel when a child is going to born in a situation where the parent/s wont be able to look after it for whatever reason (age, money etc) then not having an abortion could be a far crueler option in the long run.

[Dr. Greenthumb]

they could always just put it up for adoption...tons of couples arent able to have children and would happily raise them.

[Squares]

i see your point, but giving birth is such an amazing part of life... i mean how would you feel if you had just given birth or watched your wife/gf give birth, holding that little piece of you, but knowing that you cant raise them yourself because you just dont have the money or whatever, so youre going to have to give them to someone else. i also think its unfair to put women thru the pain of pregnancy and childbirth for a child they dont want.. especially if theyre a victim of rape.

[Dr. Greenthumb]

if its such an important part of life why do they find it so easy to kill without giving it a second thought...even worse is the partial where they crush the infants skull. if you have the heartlessness to kill it you have that same heartlessness when you give away your baby.

[Squares]

yeah again im seeing what you mean, and i didnt realise thats what a partial abortion is.. because im thinking more within like a few weeks of finding out youre pregnant, when a foetus is just a few cells. But then that leads to the debate of when life begins. yeah the whole skull crushing thing is needless.

[Grrrl]

i have noticed its mostly males posting against abortion which is quite funny cos you will NEVER be in that situation and you will never have to deal with being caught out, the risk of losing your family, your life, your home, your partner, all for what, so you can bring a child into the world that will not be loved, that even if you put up for adoption they will always have that feeling of abandonment. And what do you say when they come looking for you, 'sorry you were an accident and I didnt get an abortion despite the fact I didnt want you cos i thought it would be better to bring someone into the world and abandon them and let you have a life of pain and life time of painful feelings cos i didnt give a shit about you, i was a player in my youth and you were just an unwanted side effect.'

Its easy when you have a cock cos you can just run away when the going gets tough, you don't have to deal with the after effects of your sexual conquests, you just sow your seeds and go, I bet at least one in 3of u have got a girl up the duff whether you realise it / knew about it or not. And what about the girls that get pushed into an abortion when they don't want it, are they wrong too? Should all women who have an abortion be punished, because of course going to slaughter your child isn't punishment enough, having to think about what you have done and deal with the feelings you have after, never being able to have children again in some cases, bleeding for a month sometimes longer from both heart and womb, torturing yourself mentally thinking you a dirty fucking whore all cos some guy left his load in there, they deserve more than all that do they? because you don't agree with it?

Why don't we focus more on the prevention rather than cure for once, if people had safer sex and actually gave a shit for each other, girls wouldnt end up in such a dark situation, and if you are so against abortion use a fucking johnny. oh no 'it doesnt feel as good', well tough shit, if you don't want an abortion on your conscience deal with it. If a girl is backed into that corner she needs to make the decision for herself, it's her that has to deal with everything it entails, and no man could possibly uinderstand it however caring he was, however hard he tried, its just something you can never comprehend.

[Dr. Greenthumb]

i wouldnt leave a girl after i knocked her up...its tough shit but both the parents have to face the conaequences. theres to many type of contraceptives for this to even be an issue. you can even drop morning after pills.

i dont think anyone is saying to punish these girls but if they are getting disowned by their family for being pregnant dont you think they earned it. although the parents might be over-reacting children know how their parents react in situations. im not saying its right for the parents to do it but the daughter has the responsibility to not get knocked up.

i dont have a problem with the women who do it, although i view it as wrong i wouldnt hold it against someone. i think this responsibility lies in the hands of the government. the way things are its alright to kill a half born infant and somewhat socially acceptable but if i get caught for possesion im going to be serving time in jail.

[jlsmith]

im against abortion, so i use a johnny. whats your point? you just confirmed what some people have been saying: if you dont want to risk unwanted pregnancy, take your precautions. and if you dont want an unwanted pregancy and your boyfriend isnt interested in wearing a condom, DUMP THAT FUCKER. simple. if he doesnt care about you enough to use a rubber, hes not worth your time.

[Grrrl]

isnt it a guys responsiblity not to knock a girl up too? theres two parties involved so the responsibilty is shared however your lack of mention of this shows you dont believe that either

[Grrrl]

not you smith

[Dr. Greenthumb]

yeah its the guys responsibility to so slip on a condom but thats about all we can do, women have more options for contracpetives than guys do. im not saying its right when guys knock a girl up then leave her dealing with the problem, but women have a bit more of responsibility on this one because no matter which way you cut it it's the females body and she needs to look after it more than the guy who's piping her.

[Darth Inhaler]

It really doesn't matter what the male's opinion on abortion is. The mother of the child makes the decision, not anyone else. You could want to give the kid up for adoption because you don't believe in abortion, but if your girlfriend or whoever disagrees with you, you can't do anything about it.

[Dr. Greenthumb]

thats obvious but just because its the womens choice doesnt mean that its morally acceptable